badkirby 110 Report post Posted April 18, 2014 Hello all, How would one attempt to receive test results before a session. I have no issues paying for this. Has anyone done it before and advise for process on how to make it work. Sp has anyone done this for a client? Regards, Kirby Posted via Mobile Device Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest c**io**m7 Report post Posted April 18, 2014 Hello all, How would one attempt to receive test results before a session. I have no issues paying for this. Has anyone done it before and advise for process on how to make it work. Sp has anyone done this for a client? Regards, Kirby Posted via Mobile Device Are we talking high school math test? If you're talking STD tests then I think you may want to back away from the hobby. Just my opinion...others may disagree but, seriously...picture this scenario: You call up a lady who is using a fake name to protect her identity and ask rates etc...and you show up at her door. She is all dolled up, ready to rock your world. You hand her your envelope and then say: "before we start, can you show me proof you don't have an STD?". Ain't gonna work. Just for starters, the sheet from the clinic just might have her real name and home address on it. If you don't see this information, how can you be sure these are her test results? Anyway, I think you're pushing it if you want this information but, I could be wrong. Call up a couple, ask them if they will provide their test results before you see them because maybe my opinion is very wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted April 18, 2014 Absolutely inappropriate and insulting if you asked a lady for her test results, or if she is D&D free. Just as it would be equally inappropriate and insulting for her to ask you for your test results and if you are D&D free YOUR SEXUAL HEALTH IS YOUR RESPONSIBILTY Up to you to get yourself tested But asking a lady about her test results and health status will likely end up in you being declined a date RG 12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fortunateone 156618 Report post Posted April 18, 2014 Hello all, 1. How would one attempt to receive test results before a session. 2. I have no issues paying for this. 3. Has anyone done it before and advise for process on how to make it work. 4. Sp has anyone done this for a client? Regards, Kirby Posted via Mobile Device 1. You don't 2. Like you want to pay for the (free) test available to everyone? how's that going to work. You understand it takes a week for results, during which time sps are seeing other clients? Or are you saying you are willing to take her out of the work place, paying for her entire week's income while you both wait for the results. And when you do get them/see them, what is the kind of services you expect now that you 'know'. Oh and, what are you doing during all this wait time?? Got your results in hand, and a guarantee of not doing or seeing anyone? 3. NO, no amount of advice on how to 'get it done' will replace my answer #2 lol 4. I hope not. It is a very manipulative thing for any client to require, and a very useless thing for an sp to present anyway (see #2) When was your last test, and what is your sexual history since then btw, and going back to #2 what kind of services are you expecting from this sp with the clean test results? 12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank97500 18478 Report post Posted April 18, 2014 Call me naive if you want but I would think that if there was any health issues that could be passed along to the gentleman, I would hope the lady would bring it up. The same for the gentleman visiting... If he had any issues I would hope that he let the lady know about it. STD, hepatitis etc.... I believe that we trust each other enough without having to see any health certificate or other health form.... Just saying! 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted April 18, 2014 1. You don't 2. Like you want to pay for the (free) test available to everyone? how's that going to work. You understand it takes a week for results, during which time sps are seeing other clients? Or are you saying you are willing to take her out of the work place, paying for her entire week's income while you both wait for the results. And when you do get them/see them, what is the kind of services you expect now that you 'know'. Oh and, what are you doing during all this wait time?? Got your results in hand, and a guarantee of not doing or seeing anyone? 3. NO, no amount of advice on how to 'get it done' will replace my answer #2 lol 4. I hope not. It is a very manipulative thing for any client to require, and a very useless thing for an sp to present anyway (see #2) When was your last test, and what is your sexual history since then btw, and going back to #2 what kind of services are you expecting from this sp with the clean test results? If I'm not mistaken, also including HIV testing, it can usually take 2-12 weeks for a result, but in some patients up to 6 months for test results to come in (anyone know different for fact please correct me) Are companions supposed to be completely celibate (including husband/bf/cl for 6 months, and are you going to be completely celibate for 6 months, including wife/gf/cl or conventional dating. I can't envision any companion doing that just to see you, or any client, nor can I imagine any client doing the same just to see one lady RG 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maverick 2873 Report post Posted April 18, 2014 I've (very) recently seen an SP website say she would show a test result upon request so I don't think this question is as inappropriate as you guys are all saying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest S****r Report post Posted April 18, 2014 I've (very) recently seen an SP website say she would show a test result upon request so I don't think this question is as inappropriate as you guys are all saying. Yes, we could show you a test result, but you have to understand that it would only reflect activity up until that date and time that the sample was taken (which is now already in the past.) And even if there had only been one client, SO, or whomever since then, then the test results no longer tell you the current status. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted April 18, 2014 It's standard procedure that a clinic or even your doctor's office will only contact you if your test results are positive. I have never been offered a copy of the test results, but I suppose I could get a copy if I requested. But for reasons mentioned above, the results on that piece of paper are only as accurate as the day they were printed on. Bottom line is it's impolite and 99% guaranteed you will be declined for a date. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ***t***iv*** Report post Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) Yes, we could show you a test result, but you have to understand that it would only reflect activity up until that date and time that the sample was taken (which is now already in the past.) And even if there had only been one client, SO, or whomever since then, then the test results no longer tell you the current status. exactly. its not so much inappropriate to ask for as pointless to do so. your best bet to protect your safety is brush up on STI information. what signs and symptoms to watch out for. decline to go through with the appt if you see any warning signs. because even if you ask, there is no guarantee you will get the truth because the truth changes, as explained by how the tests work with timelines and activity. if you are asking because you want unsafe (aka uncovered) services, that is pretty counterproductive. the best way to reduce risk is to play safe. if you want to protect a loved one, use protection. or abstinence. the only way to guarantee your safety is to be abstinent. we know this from health class. I would only provide unsafe services with a guarantee of a clean bill of health, (like the op is probably thinking would be the perfect scenario to exchange papers) but since that is literally impossible to guarantee (even with no partners after testing, some infections take years to show up in tests, like hiv which can show up ten years later), so is it for me to offer uncovered services! the fact of the lady having to reveal her personal information is very dangerous, and probably not worth the risk. the only thing as important as physical health is mental health. knowing that clients know your identity can be very damaging mentally if that info ever got out. shame is alive and well in our country unfortunately and us ladies have to look out for our own well being first-- as one member stated-- your health is your responsibility. no one else is going to worry about it for us. Edited April 18, 2014 by ***t***iv*** added thought Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ottanon 2930 Report post Posted April 18, 2014 While its no protection (sorry no pun intended) if you stick with well know ladies who have good reputations you should be ok. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FunValerie 8573 Report post Posted April 18, 2014 Tests results are meaningless if the lady has had even one partner since the tests were done. A request for test results is usually followed by a request for BBFS so I would avoid anyone requesting test results. If you want to be totally certain (100%) of not catching anything, avoid FS and enjoy other activities which you can have fun doing with a SP. The odds of catching something from CFS are very low but not 0% risk. Somewhere on the Internet, I found the actual calculation for this very low risk. Perhaps someone else can find the link. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ice4fun 78407 Report post Posted April 19, 2014 Ok first off I will admit that his is not a topic that I know much about but my understanding is as follows: Service providers get tested regularly to look after their own health...when they do so i don't expect to see the results it just lets me know they are serious about both their business and their health.. both are good things for me too The testing process is not like a pregnancy test where they pee on a stick and voila we have results...so its not a tool that can be used on the day of the booking to protect yourself.. there are things you can do to reduce your risk (condoms etc) but testing is not going to do it for you. When you choose... thats right choose... to participate in this hobby you assume some risk... really no different than other choices you make. but they are your chouces and your risks... asking for test results is trying to place this responsibility on the lady and to be frank... she has enough things to think about without managing our risk. Finally.... if the risk scares you... maybe you should not participate in the industry. Bottom line the choice is yours. Just my opinion. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cute0aza0Button 21399 Report post Posted April 19, 2014 I don't think that there is too much to add to what's been said. I understand your concern for safety, I really do. However you need to understand that (sorry to say) my safety is more important. The good need is that this means I do everything possible to keep myself safe, keeping you safe in the process. Ladies in this profession are usually more on too of their sexual health than anyone else. Tests, condoms, education - we stay on top of it (pun intended) When you go to a bar do you ask for test results? Exactly. Guess which scenario is more risky. Keep yourself safe :) 14 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MNO4 789 Report post Posted April 20, 2014 Posted via Mobile Device Additional Comments: This is riskier stuff. And so these concerns are valid on all sides. And it's not insulting to ask or there is no intent to insult. Just like there is none if an sp does a visual inspection before a bbbj. I don't see why regar tests couldn't be posted online or elsewhere . I have been Shown results before- without asking. Ideally hobbyists would have them too. I've been to parts of Theworld where the hobby is legalized and upper scale sps have them there for reference This is a business and posting results would probably improve someone's brand and maybe marketability. Also people would be more secure knowing an sp is getting themsves tested. I know the response is the hobbyists Need it to test ad well and they are right but it's a numbers game. On average sps see many more people a week. Absolutely everyone needs to protect themselves to their comfort and risk levels. And there are limitations to their usefulness as mentioned above but to argue that they are of no point and people would not be secure knowing flies in the face of current scientific thought. Posted via Mobile Device Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest **n****er Report post Posted April 21, 2014 Wow. Sorry op. Verbal destruction fired your way was expected but not warranted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piano8950 32577 Report post Posted April 22, 2014 Hello all, How would one attempt to receive test results before a session. I have no issues paying for this. Has anyone done it before and advise for process on how to make it work. Sp has anyone done this for a client? Regards, Kirby Posted via Mobile Device kirby, it seems that you're new. I think that you have the right mindset regarding STIs, it's something you should be concerned about. Your approach however will most likely not yield any results. But keep in mind a few things, a lot if not all these ladies are extremely knowledgeable in STIs. I have been very publicly schooled on this once, on Cerb too. My point is that I honestly feel more comfortable with SPs on the matter of STIs then I would with a non-SP that I met in a bar. Ladies here have a much greater understanding of the risks, have a STRICT no BBFS policy. But if this is still something that you are concerned about, I'd recommend seeing an MA instead. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Blower 868 Report post Posted April 22, 2014 YOUR SEXUAL HEALTH IS YOUR RESPONSIBILTY RG I think that is what he is doing by asking this question. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Regent 35404 Report post Posted May 1, 2014 (even with no partners after testing, some infections take years to show up in tests, like hiv which can show up ten years later) This isn't actually true. If you're HIV+ it can take 10 years for AIDS to develop, but the window period for HIV testing is much, much shorter than that. With modern HIV testing, EIA gen 4 which includes p24 antigen and antibody testing, or NAT which tests for HIV RNA, the window period is 14 days. Gen 3 EIA testing, which only tests for antibodies (this includes point of care/rapid tests that give you your results in 5 minutes) has a window period of 34 days for 95% of people, and 3 months for the rest. The window period might be as long as 6 months for an antibody test if you are immunocompromised or if you've been on pre- or post-exposure prophyaxis, but these are unusual circumstances. Being aware of window periods is important but you definitely do not need to worry about HIV infection being undetectable by tests for years. http://www.catie.ca/en/hiv-canada/5 http://smartsexresource.com/health-providers/blog/201308/understanding-window-periods-hiv-tests 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highsexdrivebabe 11800 Report post Posted May 18, 2014 Well listen to this now!! I do request a paper trail of my STDs including HIV results and I used to leave it on my bed and would point it out to gentlemen visiting it for at least 2 weeks and U know what???? Well only 2 took the time to read the negative results.... The paper is still on a desk in my room and when a gentleman ask he's invited to look at it if he requests and I don't think it's an insult if he does and I don't feel insulted at all. Not as late as last week (the gentleman visited me yesterday) the gentleman asked me about it. He pointed out he doesn't see much SPs and is scared for he has a SO. I totally understand his concern and I feel it's legitimate. Told him where my last results were but also told him that SPs R the most concerned ladies about STDs and that he should not worry so much about that when visiting one. But indeed the results R valid for until the date done. That said I am going again for next ones next week!!! Don't worry U will have a safe time! Barbara Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave - WebGuy 597 Report post Posted May 18, 2014 Um ... all a test provides is that AT THE TIME OF THE TEST that nothing would come up. STD tests aren't exactly while you wait, so between the test and visit you're have to be prepared to cover a loss of income if you're expecting celibacy between then and the encounter. I know with experience from the porn industry, some contracts require you not be sexually active between the test and the production, so that the test is kept accurate. I've been part of one production where the entire set crew had to take part. There's absolutely no point in asking for a test result because it would be inaccurate or VERY expensive to cover the income between the test and the encounter which is pretty much going to be required. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted May 18, 2014 Just asking outloud, but would you also ask this of women you date, your SO (be it wife/CL) or your girlfriend, well anyone you are intimate is...or do you just want to restrict that question for SP's only. And will you provide the same information to the companions you see, not to mention your SO, girlfriend and anyone you are intimate with RG 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason Fergusson 1408 Report post Posted June 1, 2014 The best way to avoid an STI is to set personal limits. The most serious STIs are normally spread by full sexual intercourse. There are so many low risk options: body slides, prostate massage, and hand jobs. These options have minimal risk of infection and disease and they are still very thrilling. Furthermore, if you are married or in a relationship, you need to consider the seriousness of passing an STI to your wife/partner. There is risk in any sexual and physical encounter. You could even get shingles or warts by accidentally sharing a towel with someone at the gym! Anyway, it is good to decide what degree of risk you are willing to take. You do not want to be kicking yourself and to be full of regret because you picked up an STI or, even worse, if you gave an STI to someone. How guilty would you feel in that case? Anyway, it is food for thought. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicolette Vaughn 294340 Report post Posted June 1, 2014 Don't insult an SP by requesting this. If you feel there is too much risk for you to go see an SP, don't go see one. Anyone can get an STI, not just a service provider and this is a great way to never hear from an SP again. There is always risk and the only risk free way is abstaining from sexual activities and intercourse all together. Don't expect an SP to clear your mind where STDS are concerned. You are responsible for your own sexual health as is everyone else. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miss Jessica Lee 43328 Report post Posted June 1, 2014 Posted via Mobile Device Additional Comments: This is riskier stuff. And so these concerns are valid on all sides. And it's not insulting to ask or there is no intent to insult. Just like there is none if an sp does a visual inspection before a bbbj. I don't see why regar tests couldn't be posted online or elsewhere . I have been Shown results before- without asking. Ideally hobbyists would have them too. I've been to parts of Theworld where the hobby is legalized and upper scale sps have them there for reference This is a business and posting results would probably improve someone's brand and maybe marketability. Also people would be more secure knowing an sp is getting themsves tested. I know the response is the hobbyists Need it to test ad well and they are right but it's a numbers game. On average sps see many more people a week. Absolutely everyone needs to protect themselves to their comfort and risk levels. And there are limitations to their usefulness as mentioned above but to argue that they are of no point and people would not be secure knowing flies in the face of current scientific thought. Posted via Mobile Device I'm sorry but this is about the craziest suggestion I've ever heard! You think test results should be posted online? My real name isn't Jessica (right?) ... how will you know when you find MY test results? Or should I post my test results along with my given name address and health card number and indicate that these are the test results for Miss Jessica Lee ... ? I don't know how that would improve branding and marketability. I do know about stalking .... or maybe I misunderstood...? 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites