Guest S**iJ****ne Report post Posted March 9, 2010 Last time I came to Ottawa I LOVED it. The gentlemen were great the city is beautiful and the ladies here were very supportive and welcoming. I could not wait to come back and told Naomi all the great stuff about Ottawa!! But then we get here and it is like a different city!!! I have never in any of the cities I have visited seen anything like this. EVERY one of our CL ads got flagged, prank phone calls and to top it off about 7 different people called and booked us, confirmed their appointment. Then would call from downstairs for the room number claiming they are in the lobby, then they never arrive at our room. Is that normal here?? It happened 7 times that is crazy!!! Is it ladies messing around with us??? I hope that it is not normally like this because it is not making Naomi and I want to come back. I am sorry if I offended anyone in this post I am very upset. It has cost Naomi and I more money to be here then we have made due to these fake appointments being booked, people flagging our ads and what not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emma Alexandra 123368 Report post Posted March 9, 2010 That's insane...so sorry you went through that...did you get the guys numbers to confirm appointments? If you did you should list them in the sp no show section. also did you ask for a reference? This seems to be the best thing to do these days ...this way it limits the game playing. Can't tell you anything about CL as i never go there.. kisses, Emma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashley Ann 75247 Report post Posted March 9, 2010 Although I have met many nice gentlemen through CL, ( I advertise on there too) there is also a lot of trash on there ...with that being said 7 no shows sounds odd, yes the occasional no show can occur , but not 7..perhaps someone was indeed trying to mess with your business. Just wanna also confirm, that these no shows were from CL not here on CERB..That is one of the many reasons I love CERB so much..seems like 99% of the users on here are serious and not inconsiderate time wasters...I have yet to have a no show through CERB. Anyways, all that to say keep posting on here and I am sure you will do very well!!! Do not let others succeed at trying to bring you down... Good Luck :-) Vanessa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A***** A***** 510 Report post Posted March 9, 2010 Last time I came to Ottawa I LOVED it. The gentlemen were great the city is beautiful and the ladies here were very supportive and welcoming. I could not wait to come back and told Naomi all the great stuff about Ottawa!! But then we get here and it is like a different city!!! I have never in any of the cities I have visited seen anything like this. EVERY one of our CL ads got flagged, prank phone calls and to top it off about 7 different people called and booked us, confirmed their appointment. Then would call from downstairs for the room number claiming they are in the lobby, then they never arrive at our room. Is that normal here?? It happened 7 times that is crazy!!! Is it ladies messing around with us??? I hope that it is not normally like this because it is not making Naomi and I want to come back. I am sorry if I offended anyone in this post I am very upset. It has cost Naomi and I more money to be here then we have made due to these fake appointments being booked, people flagging our ads and what not. I would get their contact info, and the numbers they where calling from, and also post it in the no show/wot time area. Also, if they are CERB members pulling that BS, I am pretty sure the mod can deal with that. As for .........., it is a common complaint of many women that their ads get flagged. I am not sure what the threshold is for flagging hits, but you might want to check here http://sfbay............org/forums/?forumID=3 I know, it does take a certain amounts of hits, per IP address, to get the add flagged. References are great, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kate von Katz 49953 Report post Posted March 9, 2010 That is extremely unusual that all of your CL ads got flagged. I advertise on there myself, and though I get a lot of wankers phoning me, my ads have yet to be flagged. As for the no-shows, that, too, is very unusual. I wouldn't let this discourage you from coming back to Ottawa. It's annoying, absolutely, but don't let the antics of a few whack-jobs ruin an otherwise great trip! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buggernot 588 Report post Posted March 9, 2010 That is brutal. There is no doubt in my mind now that there is an individual or group of people that target specific girls to try and kill their business. And CL is becoming more trouble than it's worth. Posted via Mobile Device Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A***** A***** 510 Report post Posted March 9, 2010 That is extremely unusual that all of your CL ads got flagged. I advertise on there myself, and though I get a lot of wankers phoning me, my ads have yet to be flagged. As for the no-shows, that, too, is very unusual. My ads get flagged on CL constantly. Its jealous competiton... then again, you also have to know how to get around that system, which I do. So all in all, I repost, they flag, it goes on. Who's going to win, I am ofcourse;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jg24 3708 Report post Posted March 9, 2010 This is sad I would say it is competition to a degree but Im sure there is idiots having thier jolies on CL Emma says it best get numbers or references I cant imagine and hope it is not CERB members if it is they should be outed although you had 7 no shows I hope it was still worth it and you atleast had a little fun TO THE ASSWIPES who did this if your on CERB grow up these ladies spend money to come here for us to have some variety if it is competition doing it GROW UP if your that jealous of competition theN you should look in your house to see why you have little bussiness or no BUSSINESS IT IS NOT FROM THE TOURING LADIES This sort of behavour is imature if we find it is competition then they should be outed and we all avoid them this shit is not kool 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trucido peritus lingua 2699 Report post Posted March 9, 2010 Cancelations and no shows seem to be the common theme this month. If it is any consolation, as a client I as well have had no shows. The choice of using CL to advertise is one of caution. While you may reach a broader audience, you also increase the opportunity to be disappointed or worse, out of pocket. I have never seen someone who solely advertises on CL; all have had to have at least some presence on CERB. Even with this approach, all of my disappointments with meeting courtesans have been with those who advertise on Craig?s List. Last fall after two no shows in a row I vowed to use CL to eliminate who I will see. Arguably, there are some gems to be found on CL, but I have neither the time nor patience to find them. Ironically, the two no shows were women who were well reviewed. I even politely e-mailed them about the no show, concerned and hoping that they were fine. Yet I never even had a response and their ads were back up the next day. IMHO, stick with CERB and drop CL. The clientele you reach may be fewer, but I believe the reliability is higher and if like me, tend to book longer appointments. In the end, you have to make your own decisions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apex2006 1071 Report post Posted March 9, 2010 Don't advertise on CL the best people are here on CERB and we can keep you busy for your visits in Ottawa! You just pick the wrong web site! Apex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spud271 47779 Report post Posted March 9, 2010 That is the most insane thing I have ever heard! Yet there have been incidences in the past of visiting sp's to Ottawa having fake bookings by someone who clearly has some very serious issues! Sorry the two of you had to go through that, it's just very childish behaviour. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geo007 203 Report post Posted March 9, 2010 I'm ashamed this would happen in the Ottawa area. So many problems seem to indicate that someone was specifically targetting you and Noemie. Being a great sp visit to Ottawa probably drew someone's attention too much. I would suggest you ask for references like some other SPs do. Cerb participants should be able to provide that easily: I do. For such two beautiful SPs as you, I'm really ashamed and understand your rant. I'm pissed off and can't accept that some people would do that. ***K. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
etasman2000 15994 Report post Posted March 9, 2010 I am sorry if I offended anyone in this post I am very upset. It has cost Naomi and I more money to be here then we have made due to these fake appointments being booked, people flagging our ads and what not. You didn't offend anyone, what happen to you is unacceptable. I am sorry that you and Naomi had to experience this in Ottawa. :x Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ou**or**n Report post Posted March 9, 2010 It would be sad if you two didn't come back because that would mean whoever was targeting you won. There is lots of good advice here by the various contributors to this thread. Advertise here and on E-C, ask for references and if you have any problems with no-shows from CERB members then report them. You should also join the SP section here to view the info on no-shows. Like others I am genuinely saddened by what happened here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newton 714 Report post Posted March 10, 2010 It's crazy on the 7 no shows with 7 different people. I begin to think maybe it's more than jealous competitions. Is it possible a group of people plotting together to mess with touring ladies? Jasmine, I'm very saddened by this, like other cerb members. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amuse56 100 Report post Posted March 10, 2010 It is well known that CL is increasingly becoming a haven for scammers, what will happen is the scammers will attempt to move into CERB once the easy money disappears from CL. The scammers follow the money, with CERB as a reliable social platform for hobbiest and providers its still vulnerable to the scammers who will try everything. Unfortunately more work for the mods and CK. Sorry ladies that you were victims but its a warning to all legitemate service providers. Amuse56.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burnsey 484 Report post Posted March 10, 2010 Last time I came to Ottawa I LOVED it. The gentlemen were great the city is beautiful and the ladies here were very supportive and welcoming. I could not wait to come back and told Naomi all the great stuff about Ottawa!! But then we get here and it is like a different city!!! I have never in any of the cities I have visited seen anything like this. EVERY one of our CL ads got flagged, prank phone calls and to top it off about 7 different people called and booked us, confirmed their appointment. Then would call from downstairs for the room number claiming they are in the lobby, then they never arrive at our room. Is that normal here?? It happened 7 times that is crazy!!! Is it ladies messing around with us??? I hope that it is not normally like this because it is not making Naomi and I want to come back. I am sorry if I offended anyone in this post I am very upset. It has cost Naomi and I more money to be here then we have made due to these fake appointments being booked, people flagging our ads and what not. Come back to Calgary Jasmine/Naomi where we love you !! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ragnaglar 440 Report post Posted March 10, 2010 Hi Jasmine, I think this time you and Naomi were targeted by some nasty folk cause i have never heard of so many no shows. I too am saddened by this. you and Betty were here last year and had a good time.... ( I certainly had a great time) so it must be a deliberate denial of service attack. It's crazy on the 7 no shows with 7 different people. I begin to think maybe it's more than jealous competitions. Is it possible a group of people plotting together to mess with touring ladies? Jasmine, I'm very saddened by this, like other cerb members. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lexy Grace 103697 Report post Posted March 10, 2010 I am so sorry that this has happened. It's down right hateful and disrespectful. I advertise on CL here in Halifax and will be making plans to visit Ottawa in the near future but I think I will only advertise on CL for Ottawa as a last resort. I deal with the same crap on CL here but not to that degree by any means. Reading this makes me very hesitant to even leave Halifax now. I wish I could say more but I'm at a lost. Lexy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PistolPete 61421 Report post Posted March 10, 2010 I think some ladies would agree that this business can be a "cut throat business" Here is a cut and pasted reply in another thread back in 2008-Thanks Mod. This is what I think that could of happened with Jasmine and Betty off the CL ad's. Here is the entire thread started back in 2008. http://cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=4737&highlight=THROAT+BUSINESS "Yup, that happens a lot in some places. Ottawa is bad for it but other cities actually are plagued with this problem (like you all are for the no-shows). I guess the logic is that if you keep your competition busy and they keep turning down calls and running all over town because they have the time booked already then it increases your odds to get calls at those times. Stupid eh? What a way to damage the business... This thread is proof of that. It's just greed mixed with a lack of businessthroat business" to many people). We are trying to get the ladies communicating with one another here on cerb but it's a uphill battle. Because of the type of business everyone sees everyone as competition so the ladies often keep a very big distance between them (and many fight with each other). We are trying to help change that, work together and do good things for the industry. It's easy to forget sometimes that "most" of the people in the business have no business management training or prior business Without some of these business management skills people (in general) have a hard time grasping business concepts and showing "professionalism". Most career/business people know that if they miss an appointment with a client your pretty much screwed and lost that deal for good... and not to mention we all know it's extremely unprofessional. Financial tracking is also not at the top of the list of business skills, organization is horrible with most and I can't even go into the marketing and promotions. (Again we have many exceptions but more then 60% of the ladies this holds true to - and agency owners) But like I say over and over (This business is not like any other business in the world)... It must be treated very differently as it's very unique (and special). Where the ladies may need improvement in business management they make up for in tenfold in "other skills" so you must accept the good with the bad. " experience and ethics (as you said it is a "cut skills. (I DID SAY MOST - WE DO HAVE MANY EXCEPTIONS). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whatsup 11893 Report post Posted March 10, 2010 Jasmine, Sorry to hear about this. It is a shame that some unscrupulous people would pull this kind of BS. As mentioned earlier in the thread, do not allow them to think they have disrupted your service that you are not willing to come back to Ottawa. Follow the advice provided and utilize Cerb and Escorts Canada as you advertising venues. You are more than Welcome in this city. BTW, you are gorgeous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cato 160314 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 I too am really sorry to hear about this, Jasmine. I had been looking forward to your visit, and was unfortunately away while you were in Ottawa. Your pics are among the best on cerb, and I wouldn't be surprised if there was some jealousy out there in cl land. I send you my best wishes, and hope we will be able to meet some time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites