VedaSloan 119179 Report post Posted June 4, 2014 http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1183056-an-act-to-amend-the-criminal-code-in-response-to.html It's bad guys. Really bad. 31 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrrnice2 157005 Report post Posted June 4, 2014 You are SO correct with that statement Berlin. I really am in shock. I honestly did not believe they would adopt the Nordic model, much less make it even more extreme and more dangerous for everyone involved. I shall digest this a bit and write a proper response later on. I only watched the press conference and if I understood it correctly, highlights are: Men will be criminals. If you advertise on a place like Cerb you are a criminal. All women in this industry need saving. 14 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted June 4, 2014 The ladies should be happy....Peter MacKay is trying to save you and retrain you to get out of prostitution...he cares (detect my sarcastic voice here) But me and other men...just a bunch of pervs Pissed off...saw PM press conference...not happy at all RG 13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Studio 110 by Sophia 150333 Report post Posted June 4, 2014 Just watched it on live at 6, wow, speechless!! Cant believe advertising too? OMFG this is hard pill to swallow!!! 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Emily J 172062 Report post Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) Backgrounder on Bill C36 - "Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act" http://news.gc.ca/web/article-en.do?mthd=tp&crtr.page=1&nid=853729&crtr.tp1D=930 This only just happened. It's just a first reading. Summary and explanation of the proposed bill from Pivot Legal Society, who worked on the Bedford SCC ruling: http://www.pivotlegal.org/the_new_sex_work_legislation_explained Edited June 4, 2014 by Sweet Emily J 21 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mo1212 120 Report post Posted June 4, 2014 I really don't get it guys. How is this going to affect people who want to buy sex? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cato 160314 Report post Posted June 4, 2014 The Regressive Conservatives. Let's turf them in the next election. 21 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moza70 1407 Report post Posted June 4, 2014 Don't give up. This can still be challenged and likely will be by the same group that brought the old law down. 15 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Miss Jane TG Report post Posted June 4, 2014 It is the Supreme Court who made the first mistake. To allow an unconstitutional law to be in effect for one year! This meant that the Supreme Court was convinced that harm will be incurred if no laws were there at all. I have said it long time ago, for the record, that it is going to be a Nordic Model. And now I say it again for the record, that there is a "high" chance that this bill will be adopted in its entirety. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malika Fantasy 144625 Report post Posted June 4, 2014 CBC News poll just said 12% support the new law, 86% do not. If this is true, there is good chances that (hopefully) the Tories will soften the laws 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gia Wren Marlowe 67985 Report post Posted June 4, 2014 They probably made the first reading very extreme in the hopes of losing less in re-writings. This would never pass constitutional muster. 13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highsexdrivebabe 11800 Report post Posted June 4, 2014 According to one of my regular who has connections where needed that should be in effect sometimes in December so gentlemen find yourselves a few regulars until then and ladies change places where U host and greet your clients so these clients cannot be picked up anywhere. And then stop advertising (I know that sucks...). Really build a clientèle and U and the gentlemen should be ok ... I know I don't say or know much but that's what this regular told me this am before the bill was tabled. If and when I find out more I will share Cerbites. Barbara xxxxooo Additional Comments: According to one of my regular who has connections where needed that should be in effect sometimes in December so gentlemen find yourselves a few regulars until then and ladies change places where U host and greet your clients so these clients cannot be picked up anywhere. And then stop advertising (I know that sucks...). Really build a clientèle and U and the gentlemen should be ok ... I know I don't say or know much but that's what this regular told me this am before the bill was tabled. If and when I find out more I will share Cerbites. Barbara xxxxooo 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cato 160314 Report post Posted June 4, 2014 In part they're playing to their 'core constituency' of social conservatives but this could have very serious and broad implications. I agree that most Canadians don't share these self -righteous puritanical attitudes, but that hasn't stopped this gang before. The law, if it passes, may well be struck down by the Supreme Court, but not before causing a lot of problems. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest N***he**Ont**y Report post Posted June 4, 2014 Canadian Law cannot be applied to Sites that are hosted elsewhere for content.That would include advertising. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasleen Sejour 2639 Report post Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) So true to advertising sites that are located elsewhere in the world (that cater to Canadian clientele and SP's). And just as a precaution, inquire if your fave Companion has a mailing list on her/his website. It would be a good idea to keep in mind for any future wrinkles that might result from this new 'pending' bill. Jas xo Edited June 4, 2014 by Jasleen Sejour 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mo1212 120 Report post Posted June 4, 2014 Does it mean I can't pay for sex? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Miss Jane TG Report post Posted June 4, 2014 Canadian Law cannot be applied to Sites that are hosted elsewhere for content.That would include advertising. Unfortunately, it can. All offshore websites have to cooperate with local authorities, if there is a court order. They can release all the information: IP addresses, credit cards info etc. Because the advertisement relates to an activity (criminal offence) in Canada. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomfool 220 Report post Posted June 4, 2014 No advertising? No communicating anywhere? Purchasing illegal without exception? Am I reading this wrong? I expect there will be changes before it becomes law but will be surprised if they are more than superficial. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royalfun 55449 Report post Posted June 4, 2014 The integrists of the conservative party have gone to the limit of their fanatism. Maybe they should bring back the Inquisition where they burned the witches and the fornicators. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest L**gh M****e Report post Posted June 4, 2014 Immunity from Prosecution (C-36 Bill) Sections 286.5 Reads: No persons shall be prosecuted for: an offence under section 286.2 if the benefit is derived from the provisions of their own sexual services; or (b) an offence under section 286.4 in the relation to advertisement of sexual services. (2) No persons shall be prosecuted for aiding, abetting, conspiring or attempting to commit an offence under section 286.1, 286.4 or being an accessory after the fact or counselling a person to be a party to such an offence, if the offence relating to the offering or provision of their own sexual services. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redmana2 2754 Report post Posted June 4, 2014 Unfortunately, it can. All offshore websites have to cooperate with local authorities, if there is a court order. They can release all the information: IP addresses, credit cards info etc. Because the advertisement relates to an activity (criminal offence) in Canada. Absolutely true. The foreign host may choose not to cooperate, but most will cough up personal information when pressed by legal authorities in their own countries. The targets are the advertisers offering service in Canada, not the server physically located in Canada. CERB will be illegal. The sponsors/advertisers which help to cover site costs will be illegal. They pretty much went for the jugular. This is an attempt to wipe out the industry. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasleen Sejour 2639 Report post Posted June 4, 2014 Hope this helps. Further break down and possible future steps. http://www.pivotlegal.org/the_new_sex_work_legislation_explained Jas xo. 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cinelli 22184 Report post Posted June 4, 2014 there is a "high" chance that this bill will be adopted in its entirety. The Tories have a majority and will vote as a block so...100% chance. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ou**or**n Report post Posted June 4, 2014 I was pessimistic about the law but I must admit I am staggered by its scope. It would have been one thing to manage criminalization of buyers but the wholesale ban on advertising and the broader laws against 'profiting' will end many aspects of the industry as we currently know it. It will also likely be the end of CERB and all other boards here in Canada. This is going to take time to sink in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest C*****tte Report post Posted June 4, 2014 If this passes independents will not be criminalized for advertising. But where to advertise will be the question. 286.5 (1) No person shall be prosecuted for (a) an offence under section 286.2 if the benefit is derived from the provision of their own sexual services; or (b) an offence under section 286.4 in rela- tion to the advertisement of their own sexual services. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
