One-time versus repeat?

[Guest *vbu***68]

There is a very good thread on "which is better?" between indies and agencies and to me the thread boils it down to the SP. Given this premise, I would like to take it a step further and ask if seeing an SP only once is a definitive method of making a judgment? I want to exclude the nightmarishly bad or dangerous encounters which hopefully are the exception and focus on the typical SP rendezvous.

 

Personally, I feel the first meeting is sometimes awkward, potentially nerve-racking, with both sides understandably cautious. This is countered by the excitement of something new which lots of people crave. In the end, you walk away with an opinion of how things went. But is that opinion fair? I see lots of people post reviews/recommendations based on this single data point.

 

For myself, in almost all cases, my feelings change after repeating, most often for the better. With subsequent visits, each of us can be more relaxed and know each other better with the end-result being ultimately more enjoyable. I've gone from "so-so" first-time to "fantastic" after a few visits. I've also gone the other way as well. When I see recommendations, I like to give more weight to those who claim to be actual repeaters (not will or would repeat) or regulars but most often I like to make up my own mind.

 

I'm curious how others feel?

[etasman2000 15994]

But is that opinion fair? I see lots of people post reviews/recommendations based on this single data point.

 

Much of it depends on yourself. Personally I do a great deal of research or communication with an individual before seeing them. This gives me a good sense of who they are before meeting them.

 

The recommendation section were made by other individuals, after some time you will realize that these individuals share a common interest/likes/fetish as you do. You learn to follow these people and see the same ladies that they do.

 

Lastly you had stated your value procedure, repeating and the familiar is important to you. You have found the filter that works for you.

[ottanon 2930]

I have found an SP that meets all my needs so I tend to stick with just 1. Unless there is a cancellation or availability problem I rarley go elsewhere. If you are getting everything you want why switch. I am not trying to be in a competition to see hpow many Sp's I can sleep with. Just how I feel.

[Guest *vbu***68]

Much of it depends on yourself. ...

 

Lastly you had stated your value procedure, repeating and the familiar is important to you. You have found the filter that works for you.

 

Thanks for your response. Yes I think I understand myself :lol:, but I was looking for some other viewpoints that might provide insight into areas I've never thought of. Maybe I'm missing out on great opportunities because of my own potentially flawed thinking. I hate to miss a good thing... ;)

 

I welcome opinions from SPs about this as well.

[jman47 233]

Just one mans opinion...

 

I agree with etasman2000, research and the up front communication are very important. I'd like to say luck played a roll in some of my selections, but I also did some homework before selecting.

 

Also IMHO, seeing an SP once may not always be enough to make a true definitive judgment. However, it can be enough to know whether there is a chemistry or a connection that will work. And if there is neither, its not there, then why go back?

 

Personally my preference is to find the right mix and yes, I do repeat. If it works, why do something different:lol:;).

 

Have fun.

 

Jman

[etasman2000 15994]

but I was looking for some other viewpoints that might provide insight into areas I've never thought of.

 

Hmm.....looks like you are asking advice on how to spend your money :lol:

 

Since your MO is to repeat then take a chance once in awhile and see someone without expecting to repeat.

 

BTW I don't think your thinking is flawed, just different.

[Guest *vbu***68]

Also IMHO, seeing an SP once may not always be enough to make a true definitive judgment. However, it can be enough to know whether there is a chemistry or a connection that will work. And if there is neither, its not there, then why go back?

 

Good point.

[Guest *vbu***68]

Hmm.....looks like you are asking advice on how to spend your money :lol:

 

Not my money, but how to spend my time.

 

If agency versus independent should not necessarily be deciding factor in choosing an SP, then what is? A "rec" on this board? An SP's photo? An SP who has lots of repeat clients? All of the above?

 

I'm sure a lot of people read this board to improve their odds of seeing ladies they will connect with so I was curious what helps them decide and has it been successful? My MO so far has been pretty limited to avoid a lot of risk but maybe I'm being too restrictive in my thinking.

 

You're point about research and communication is quite helpful. I do a lot of research (perhaps too much) but not a lot in the way of communication beforehand.

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

I'm sure a lot of people read this board to improve their odds of seeing ladies they will connect with so I was curious what helps them decide and has it been successful?

 

CERB is really, for me, the ultimate win-win "marketing tool". The combination available here of reading recommendations from the guys, and also reading the interesting and personable postings and words of the ladies themselves, is an amazingly effective "seller" in my case. It has made it easy for me to find wonderful ladies -- who are also of the right mindset to be able to also put up with me. A couple of my happiest liaisons have been with ladies I would not have "looked at" twice, had my choices been based solely on their websites or other ads -- it was their personalities as revealed on the Cerb forums that captured my interest in the first place. Win-Win. I win the grand prize of having some good fun; the lady's (consolation) prize for investing time on the Cerb forums is more (i.e., my) business (hey, I said it was a consolation prize!)

[The General 11309]

This is a great question, and everyone will have a different perspective on it, depending on their preferences.

 

Personnally, variety is of interest, but at the same time, when you find someone that you had a great experience with you want to repeat. For me that means to find a few that you connect with and then make sure you plan some visits with them from time to time, but explore the new adventure too and enjoy a new experience. Always looking for something that might be a bit different and exciting.

 

So, some balance between the two points, I would say for me.

[Ice-T 157]

I used to make the mistake calling agencies/indies last minute because you get that urge and was always disappointed. Now, with these great sites I can research and plan my rendez vous accordingly. I have found one sp who caters to everything that I look for and that hard to find in this game. I will occasionally look around for others but still take my time.

[Lowdark 5613]

I have to admit that I like to remain with one SP as well. The SP I usually visited became unavailable last fall so I've been of testing the waters with other SPs, sort of experimenting and looking for that connection again. Once found I plan to focus my time with her. But I agree with previous posts that when I see a post made by an SP that catches my eye, I'll do some research there. View previous recos, look at any SP websites and do a little bit of communication prior to the date. It's pretty much worked so far, including weeding out a few that seemd uninterested.

[Guest *vbu***68]

I used to make the mistake calling agencies/indies last minute because you get that urge and was always disappointed.

 

This is interesting because when I first starting hobbying I suffered the same fate. Even when I read "reviews" on other sites, I was quite often duped into believing that I had discovered something great only to be disappointed again. In the anonymous world there are so many unscrupulous people its really hard to know who to trust.

 

When I first discovered this site, I thought: What's the point of a site that doesn't allow negative reviews? But after time and many visits, I started to see the beauty of it. A no-bashing policy brings the ladies here where they are respected and you can get to know what they are like by their postings and ads. The recommendations greatly increase your odds of finding the right match.

 

I have been using this site quietly for over a year and started to wonder how other people chose ladies. A single "rec" seemed flimsy. Lots of "recs" seemed more promising. People who identified themselves as repeaters was most convincing, at least to me.

 

But I think I am narrowing my decisions too much because a lot of folks don't come out say "I'm a regular of X" or post a second rec for the same person, so maybe I'm missing out on some wonderful ladies (actually I'm sure of this) but I don't want to end up where I started way back when, hence this thread. I'm not looking for confirmation that my way is best. In fact, I'd prefer to hear other ways to choose that work too.

 

Thanks for the comments so far, please keep them coming. It's really appreciated.

[buggernot 588]

Naturally people get most excited over their first encounter, and the instinct you feel about wanting to see them again follows. In my experience, things usually improve over time and repeat visits but, unless that initial connection is there, I am hesitant to return. I can only think of one time where I had a feeling that the first session was 'up in the air' and needed to go back to try again. Turned out my gut was right in the first place. She was a really nice girl, pleasant, beautiful, and many positive recs - but not my cup of tea.

 

That being said, if I do post a rec about a sp, it is virtually always for the first time and never again. I said what I felt in the beginning and to keep going back and adding to it is excessive. It's ok once in a while, especially if it has been a long time and/or I feel the lady could use a 'bump', but I generally do not return and post about repeat visits. That's just me though...

[etasman2000 15994]

I agree with buggernot, I don't like multi-reco unless a good time has passed to avoid looking like a shrill.

 

Plus saying "I am a regular of X" has a strong possibility of offending 'Y'.

 

Just 'take a chance' from time to time and you should be fine.

[Guest S**a*Q]

I think the first date is always the most interesting, as you have that unknown factor adding to the excitement.

 

However, as the first is interesting, the subsequent dates become more comfortable and familiar. This setting is more rewarding and beneficial to both parties, as you know each other better and have learned what each likes and doesn't. Having that comfort zone established allows to add to the play experience as trust builds between the two.

 

I think both types of meeting, both initial and afterwards, are part of what is this industry. It depends what you are looking for and how quickly you find it ;)

 

In the light of recommendations, I think that with everyone having a different frame of reference and us all being just a little different, we're never going to agree on everything... I relate it to when I managed a retail video store... I always told customers that movies are viewed differently by everyone, just cause it gets 5 stars, doesn't mean you're going to like it.. Nor does it mean that you won't love the cheesy "B" movie, gathering dust on the shelf. Best bet, find a staff member that you've agreed with on movies before and go with what they recommend.

 

I'm not sure if that made any sense to anyone else... It did to me though. :) I hope I haven't hijacked this thread with nonsense to everyone else... Lol.

[blog10 283]

Great thread.

For me I rarely repeat but this is usually because I didn?t find the type of connection I was looking for. I?m very satisfied with my life so that little bit of tweaking I need is difficult to satisfy. I?m not entirely sure what I?m looking for but I figure I?ll know when I find it. I?m also very specific in what body type I like and personality is also important. As a result, I make sure I read fellow Cerb recommendations. Groups such as the Spinner and Redhead groups offer a great place to start. When I do find a SP that I have a connection with I?ll certainly repeat and likely remain loyal but if there?s something missing then I?ll move along and keep searching.

[Guest *vbu***68]

Plus saying "I am a regular of X" has a strong possibility of offending 'Y'.

 

Is this true? Ladies, are you possessive of your clients? I've always wondered about some SPs that require a "reference" from another SP that you've seen...

[Guest *vbu***68]

In the light of recommendations, I think that with everyone having a different frame of reference and us all being just a little different, we're never going to agree on everything... I relate it to when I managed a retail video store... I always told customers that movies are viewed differently by everyone, just cause it gets 5 stars, doesn't mean you're going to like it.. Nor does it mean that you won't love the cheesy "B" movie, gathering dust on the shelf. Best bet, find a staff member that you've agreed with on movies before and go with what they recommend.

 

I'm not sure if that made any sense to anyone else...

 

Made sense to me. Now if I could just figure out who that is... lol.

[etasman2000 15994]

I've always wondered about some SPs that require a "reference" from another SP that you've seen...

 

They require a reference to ensure their own safety, to ensure you aren't a chronic no-show and (especially in the US) won't get them in trouble with law-enforcement.

 

On the flip side I've had a few SP recommend other (non-duo partner) SPs to me. YMMV. :)

[Guest *vbu***68]

They require a reference to ensure their own safety, to ensure you aren't a chronic no-show and (especially in the US) won't get them in trouble with law-enforcement.

 

I understand that part, I was wondering about the SP you give as reference. How do they feel about it given the context you provided before about being offended?

[etasman2000 15994]

I understand that part, I was wondering about the SP you give as reference. How do they feel about it given the context you provided before about being offended?

 

Since the references I provide have stated they don't mind being a reference I expect they don't mind.

[Guest *vbu***68]

Since the references I provide have stated they don't mind being a reference I expect they don't mind.

 

I was questioning the broader issue you brought up. Are SPs possessive towards their clients? Are they offended if you use them as (or ask them to be) a reference or recommend another lady on this board? Maybe its a silly question: some are, some aren't, but I'm sure a lot of hobbiests don't know in advance and after they ask, the damage could already done, lol.

[cat 262460]

Some ladies are definitely possessive and it is something you can't know till it's too late. Common sense would dictate that given this is a business and SPs are NSA encounters, guests have no obligation to stay with just one of us. But SPs are people first and that means we too have feelings. A client seeking another SP can mean we were not pretty enough, good enough, or whatever enough. Then there is the question of you coming back. If I lose a valued guests, it can mean a yearly loss of anywhere from $400 to $7200 to my bottom line and that is a hit that a lot of SPs can't afford. It can also be a hit to their softer side and that is even harder, especially if she is fond of you.

 

When I ran for an agency I was incredibly territorial about my guests. Riding around in a car with the girls every night gave me a pretty good idea who was worthy of my boys and who wasn't. I have a protective streak a mile wide and I would not hesitate to tear a strip out of a girl on her way into see one of my guests. I knew who was a thief, who was a 15 minute girl, who was a con artist and who put all her and everyone elses $$$ up her nose. It was a different time, independents were rare and the agency would hand out the calls to whoever hadn't made any $$$ that night.

 

As I got older I learned that they always come home if they were meant to. So referrals are not a problem for me. Just be gentle when asking, and be honest. If you can't be honest, make it a really good lie! My favorite was "I've always wanted a tall, busty, blonde porn star" which I definitely am not! Can't fault a guy for playing the field if I can't provide the tickle for his fancy.

 

cat

[blog10 283]

I was questioning the broader issue you brought up. Are SPs possessive towards their clients? Are they offended if you use them as (or ask them to be) a reference or recommend another lady on this board? Maybe its a silly question: some are, some aren't, but I'm sure a lot of hobbiests don't know in advance and after they ask, the damage could already done, lol.

 

Avbuff168

 

I have never asked a SP for a reference; I think it lacks some class. We’re all human and we all want others to find us attractive no matter how you might feel about the other person. I digress, on to my story. A recent encounter with a SP surprised me. As I was leaving her place she said to me that if I ever needed a reference that she would be more than happy to provide. I’m not sure what prompted her to offer but it did throw me off balance a little. I need a reference to see a certain SP in the area so at first I thought this was perfect. I have yet to follow-up on her offer and I’m not sure I will even though she offered. Time will tell.