Selena_20 333 Report post Posted March 24, 2010 Hello everyone. My name is Selena and I am curious about something. I would love to get input from the SP as well as the Gentlemen. I provide non rushed GFE but I am really big on being safe with everything. Seems like I am being told by the guys that GFE means you do things unsafely. I am confused! I thought everybody wants to be safe including the Hobbyist. What do you think? I obviously am not changing the way I do things because I am not willing to put myself at risk anymore but I am curious to know this is something all girls offer! I was a little surprised as you can get a number of things giving bbbj without a condom not to mention the guy can get herpes which could easily be transmitted by a cold sore on the lip. Herpes you are stuck with for life, isn't that a worry! Hope to hear everyone's input!! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest W***ledi*Time Report post Posted March 24, 2010 Does GFE mean you do things unsafe! ... No, GFE does NOT mean any such thing. Labels like GFE do not entail specific lists of services (although, having said that, sounds like you fall under what is often refered to as the "safe GFE" category). Plenty of ladies offer BBBJ; plenty of ladies do not. Each lady operates (or should operate) at her own comfort level. Do what YOU want. Don't fall for guys' BS!! This thread may be helpful when it comes to this terminology: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=10214 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ava Foxx 1747 Report post Posted March 24, 2010 Good for you for not letting anyone coerce you into doing something you don't want to do! There are quite a few threads on this very topic that have been started. I'll look up the links after and post them for you. I will say this quickly before I'm off to search for the threads about GFE and it's meaning; GFE is a STYLE, not a list of SERVICES (i.e. bbbj, daty). It's a more intimate encounter between the SP and the hobbyist...and by intimate, I do notmean unsafe. From my understanding, many SPs wish the term had never been started because it is often misinterpreted and some gentlemen assume it means they can get more in terms of unprotected sex acts. I could go on and on, but then I'll end up ranting :rolleyes:. Back soon with the links! 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ford1976 1074 Report post Posted March 24, 2010 I provide non rushed GFE but I am really big on being safe with everything. Seems like I am being told by the guys that GFE means you do things unsafely. You should always do what you feel safe and comfortable doing. Don't let the "guys" tell you any different. Even if you normally provide a service that is considered safe, but don't fell safe providing it to that individual, they should understand with a gentle explanation. Just stick to your guns and do things your way. Just be up front about what you do and don't do and no one can complain. I always viewed GFE as just a more intimate experience, with no necessary expectation of services offered. Just because one lady offers a service doesn't mean all others do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emma Alexandra 123368 Report post Posted March 24, 2010 GFE is a style of service. DO NOT let people tell you otherwise. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rileydaniels 1901 Report post Posted March 24, 2010 I strongly believe that the whole GFE term is so that hobbyist can put us in catergories. I do not like being put into labels so I always do what I feel comfortable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antlerman 17064 Report post Posted March 24, 2010 GFE is a style of service. DO NOT let people tell you otherwise. YUP...... If you offer, as the catagories go.....GFE or PSE.....your protection is number one.... romantic...cuddle time....raunchy...kinky.....slap or tickle......it is always your choice to have protection or not........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omehgosh 736 Report post Posted March 24, 2010 GFE, PFE... it doesn't matter - if you want to play safe, then play safe. Anybody who tells you that no protection is what GFE means is full of it. Don't let anyone take advantage of you. It's your choice - it is after all your health and life. Just be upfront wherever you list your services - then stick to your guns! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buggernot 588 Report post Posted March 24, 2010 A regular complaint amongst some discerning gentleman is that if a girl does not perform bbbj, she is not GFE. The logic is, "Whoever heard of a girlfriend using a condom for a blow job?" But that's specious reasoning; this is Girlfriend Experience, not Girlfriend Reality. Your comfort level and safety boundaries are what helps you out to perform as an escort. If anyone wants to cross that line then I guess the client just may get his wish of a real girlfriend experience - he says stupid shit and she gets pissed off about it and wants nothing to do with him. Not every gf gives head to begin with, condom or not! If there is one thing that I believe should be part of GFE it's kissing. Everything has to be considered YMMV at all times though. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BownChickaBown 4829 Report post Posted March 24, 2010 I even wear rubber gloves when I'm 'tuning-in Tokyo' :D ( . )( . ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capital Hunter 18263 Report post Posted March 24, 2010 To me GFE is NOT a list of services but rather the emotional aspects of being with a girl. If definitely excludes anything not protected. If the girl makes me feel like I have been with my girlfriend emotionally (by friendly chatting, smiling, sharing, (lots of) kissing and hugging and cuddling) that experience is classified as GFE. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ragnaglar 440 Report post Posted March 24, 2010 GFE = the feeling you will experience with her, a feeling of connection I agree with everyone here, if some dude insists on anything your uncomfortable with tell them to hit the road! He is not a client you want anyways, as he may have found others willing to comply. Better safe than sorry! Posted via Mobile Device 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mikeyboy 27134 Report post Posted March 25, 2010 I agree with all of the replies here. GFE to me indicates a service which includes an emotional connection. Yes, I would tend to assume that this includes some kissing (which is one of the more intimate acts IMHO) but one should never "expect" that anything is included or excluded. Hobbiest: Talk to the lady. Ask what she is comfortable with or not and be prepared to accept the answer. Ladies: Stick to your guns and never let anyones "expectations" make you do something you aren't comfortable with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Selena_20 333 Report post Posted March 25, 2010 Thanks to all that responded to this. I just needed a little clarification. What i thought was true just needed to hear it. I also agree that GFE is kissing as I do kiss as long as oral hygiene is 100% up to par. I am glad many people here are on the same page. I will not say that i don't do bbbj but only with known clients that I trust and that I see often. They are also super clean too so everything works out good. xoxoxo Again, Thank you for response and other post that related to this. BIG HUG AND KISS xoxoxoxox Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mikeyboy 27134 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 For a "True GFE" experience, you could offer a service where you get mad at him for drinking with the boys, and cry when he won't share his "feeling"! ;-) Too real???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lil.ms.summers 122 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 For a "True GFE" experience, you could offer a service where you get mad at him for drinking with the boys, and cry when he won't share his "feeling"! ;-) Too real???? Honestly sometimes we feel like thats what they want LOL Very too real LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lexy Grace 103697 Report post Posted April 1, 2010 To me GFE is NOT a list of services but rather the emotional aspects of being with a girl. If definitely excludes anything not protected. If the girl makes me feel like I have been with my girlfriend emotionally (by friendly chatting, smiling, sharing, (lots of) kissing and hugging and cuddling) that experience is classified as GFE. I agree 100%. Lexy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liteload 100 Report post Posted April 1, 2010 Although I am new to this board I must agree with everyone else that all services must be provided at the SP's level of comfort. Personally the intimacy of hugging, holding, kissing and just touch far out weighs the actual act, keeping in mind it is the ultimate goal. I also believe that any intimacy offered by the SP should be returned by the hobbyist in kind after all this is a service but also a shared experience. That being said there is also nothing wrong with PSE too.:) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGPAWS 100 Report post Posted April 2, 2010 Another thing to remember also is that if the guy is really wanting unprotective sex he may actually be trying to give you something you don't want. I don't believe most people would be like this but you never really know these days. I say like everyone else its all about the feeling and connection with the client and the sp that gives it the GFE experience. The hugging, kissing, caressing is so nice to have cause it gives you that special attention so many are missing. It feels more like your making love to an SP then just having sex and is way more pleasureable for both I think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lexy Grace 103697 Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Although I am new to this board I must agree with everyone else that all services must be provided at the SP's level of comfort. Personally the intimacy of hugging, holding, kissing and just touch far out weighs the actual act, keeping in mind it is the ultimate goal. I also believe that any intimacy offered by the SP should be returned by the hobbyist in kind after all this is a service but also a shared experience. That being said there is also nothing wrong with PSE too.:) This is so very true about GFE. PSE is activity that is done bareback meaning no condom. Whether it is done oral, anal or vaginal. PSF Acronym for Porn Star Finish. When an SP allows someone to cum on their face or body like a porn movie instead of cum inside her. I myself only do the PSE oral on my terms and give the option of the PSF. You only do what you are comfortable with and who you do it with. Lexy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bailey summer of Winnipeg 262 Report post Posted April 4, 2010 This is so very true about GFE. PSE is activity that is done bareback meaning no condom. Whether it is done oral, anal or vaginal. PSF Acronym for Porn Star Finish. When an SP allows someone to cum on their face or body like a porn movie instead of cum inside her. I myself only do the PSE oral on my terms and give the option of the PSF. You only do what you are comfortable with and who you do it with. Lexy My version of PSE (The Way I LIKE IT!!!)= dirty talk, pussy spanking, spitting on genitalia while bbbj/cbj (yes I have done it cbj as requested), hair pulling during whatever (consensually), tit smacking/spanking either with hands or cock, gagging giving oral then spitting on it like a dirty lil bitch until you eyes overwhelmingly tear up (HUGE FAN BTW), blowing cum bubbles after CIM, hmmmmm....let's see what else....tasting digits after been inside (nothing unusual), BUT IMHO, not everything PSE "style" as you lovely ladies call it, require to be condom optional! The important thing to remember is to trust your instinct at best, and if you have to think about it too long, you should probably use a condom! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PistolPete 61421 Report post Posted April 4, 2010 I'm really horny now for Easter Sunday, thanks Bailey ;) My version of PSE (The Way I LIKE IT!!!)= dirty talk, pussy spanking, spitting on genitalia while bbbj/cbj (yes I have done it cbj as requested), hair pulling during whatever (consensually), tit smacking/spanking either with hands or cock, gagging giving oral then spitting on it like a dirty lil bitch until you eyes overwhelmingly tear up (HUGE FAN BTW), blowing cum bubbles after CIM, hmmmmm....let's see what else....tasting digits after been inside (nothing unusual), BUT IMHO, not everything PSE "style" as you lovely ladies call it, require to be condom optional! The important thing to remember is to trust your instinct at best, and if you have to think about it too long, you should probably use a condom! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
etasman2000 15994 Report post Posted April 4, 2010 PSE is activity that is done bareback meaning no condom. Whether it is done oral, anal or vaginal. I strongly disagree with this statement. PSE as a style of service has no bearing on the safety of the service performed. This has been covered several times in the forum. See this reference. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kih 458 Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Safety is a paramount consideration. To me ? FS, GFE, PSE or combinations are style of services offered by the particular SP. Chemistry and hygiene are further attributes to the experience. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest W***ledi*Time Report post Posted April 4, 2010 I strongly disagree with this statement. PSE as a style of service has no bearing on the safety of the service performed. This has been covered several times in the forum. See this reference. Exactly. In fact, this is the same reference that I cited in the 2nd post on this very thread. Reading it is highly recommended! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
