TracieGold 282 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 I guess you all know me more or less by the threads I write or respond to (lots of fun to share with all of you ladies and gentlemen), and you remember once in a while I "loose" my coolness and my "mojo" disappears... This is one of those times; Through the period of time I have being at CERB, I have requested many references and only 25% of the times I get answers???????? This is our safety and I am absolutely surprised that some of the ladies in CERB do not respond to the requests for Safety that other SP's or MP's ask for.... WHY? if you do not know the gentleman it takes 2 seconds to answer. I f you had a good experience, you may take 3 seconds to comment on it; and if the guy is a jerk, you can vent on it by communicating it to another SP. WHY do not you answer ladies? What in heavens is the problem? you do not care about your other female colleagues? you are too lazy to say a word? you lost the password in your computer?........... Please, I would like to know how many of us are not getting responses? Thanks to all the beautiful ones who ALWAYS send a PM with an answer. The latest one I had was from Ava and I was so pleased with the answer because I am not going to see the man who has been requesting an appointment with me for a while now. This is a matter of safety,,,,,please cooperate! Thanks and hugs to all! Tracie:? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annessa 22743 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 I too get a little sour when ladies dont respond....know in the future if you ever need a reference from a gent I've seen, Tracie you can count on me! :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E.D. man 691 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 Heres a question for you Tracie, What happens if the chemistry is wrong with one SP and you get into a mistrusting situation with that SP. And with another SP you have great chemistry and are a repeat customer. So you have one SP who bad mouths you and another that says good things about you. What do you do then? It is a quandry then. I could be a jerk to one SP and could be the world's greatest guy to another. I have reco'd 3 women on here and felt I had to take one off, because of differences. And did not feel that i could reco her anymore, but thats how I felt. And what Happens if an SP is a jerk to a client, we really can't say much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashley Ann 75247 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 Although I have never been asked for a reference...I would gladly provide it...without going into the full blown details of our time spent together (my preference anyway). The only assumption I can make right now is that perhaps some (NOT ALL) some, may get jealous (it happens) and they may have the attitude that they will not go out of their way to help another S.P connect with previous clients....I personally do not think that that is the best approach to take, because as far as I am concerned, when a hobbiest wants to meet with a new S.P, it WILL HAPPEN eventually, so why not assist in the matter, shows your a team player ;)!! Vanessa:boobeyes: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cara Silver 32413 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 This is a bit of an odd response. We ask for references on safety and personal hygiene. We don't care if you had chemistry with your last sp. We understand all too well that in this business there is not going to be chemistry with every client. But most of the women on here are not so catty that they would label you a 'jerk' or 'unworthy of trust' because there is no chemistry. A good client is respectful, honest, and sweet, with good hygiene. We enjoy spending time with a gentleman even if there is little chemistry. We are not in this business only looking for a great time in bed. We are professional and understanding women. I, for one, would never badmouth a client because I had no chemistry with him. When a girl asks me for a reference, I tell her, to the best of my ability, whether she'll be SAFE, and whether she'll be in the presence of someone who is clean and respectful. And- I do not provide references for gentlemen I have only seen once, unless the session went really badly. I feel I don't know them well enough. This is to stop me from making quick judgments about a client. With me, if I give you a bad reference it's because you gave me a reason to give you a bad reference. Tracie, I'm sorry you're having such a hard time with references. You deserve better. Love Amelia Heres a question for you Tracie,What happens if the chemistry is wrong with one SP and you get into a mistrusting situation with that SP. And with another SP you have great chemistry and are a repeat customer. So you have one SP who bad mouths you and another that says good things about you. What do you do then? It is a quandry then. I could be a jerk to one SP and could be the world's greatest guy to another. I have reco'd 3 women on here and felt I had to take one off, because of differences. And did not feel that i could reco her anymore, but thats how I felt. And what Happens if an SP is a jerk to a client, we really can't say much. 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buggernot 588 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 Maybe some girls don't give a shit. Maybe they want to 'keep' their client. Maybe she doesn't know who you're talking about because they never met or she doesn't remember. Maybe they don't work anymore. Maybe that girl isn't the one answering her emails. Some of these situations should still merit a response so that you have some confirmation - however, that number of 25% is disappointingly low. This can be a catty business at times though and there's more than a fair share of shady characters or people that only care about themselves. Might even be a reflection of the client in some cases if they are giving a 'reference' that won't respond. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parker 19761 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 I have requested many references and only 25% of the times I get answers???????? This is our safety and I am absolutely surprised that some of the ladies in CERB do not respond to the requests for Safety that other SP's or MP's ask for.... WHY? if you do not know the gentleman it takes 2 seconds to answer. I f you had a good experience, you may take 3 seconds to comment on it; and if the guy is a jerk, you can vent on it by communicating it to another SP. WHY do not you answer ladies? What in heavens is the problem? you do not care about your other female colleagues? you are too lazy to say a word? you lost the password in your computer?........... Please, I would like to know how many of us are not getting responses? Thanks to all the beautiful ones who ALWAYS send a PM with an answer. The latest one I had was from Ava and I was so pleased with the answer because I am not going to see the man who has been requesting an appointment with me for a while now. This is a matter of safety,,,,,please cooperate! Thanks and hugs to all! Tracie:? Sorry to hear Tracie... This can be a huge problem though, not too mention a giant pain in the ass. I had a horrible time trying to get references at first... and yes, the ladies who don't respond at all are kind of annoying.. you at least wish they would tell you they don't remember.. or would rather not hand out references.. I think the best this to do is always ask the gent to contact the lady first! That way she knows your message is coming and she can make sure she actually knows the guy. Another thing I like to do is include my website or cerb profile link.. that way the lady can check to make sure I'm an actual escort and not just some person trying to get information. I also keep a list of ladies who have either told me personally that they do not like to give references or one's who don't answer... that way you won't waste time (yours or theirs) bugging them again. I take a lot of steps to get a references, but I find it helps to getting a reference quickly and easily.. I've gotten a lot fewer 'no replies' since. xo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ava Foxx 1747 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 Another thing I like to do is include my website or cerb profile link.. that way the lady can check to make sure I'm an actual escort and not just some person trying to get information. This is a very good idea. I've been contacted for references in the past from SPs in the U.S.. I had no idea who they were. For all I knew, they could have been the SO of a man I had seen and they were trying to catch him. I asked a lot of questions before finally feeling comfortable enough to give the reference they were looking for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emma Alexandra 123368 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 This is a bit of an odd response. We ask for references on safety and personal hygiene. We don't care if you had chemistry with your last sp. We understand all too well that in this business there is not going to be chemistry with every client. But most of the women on here are not so catty that they would label you a 'jerk' or 'unworthy of trust' because there is no chemistry. A good client is respectful, honest, and sweet, with good hygiene. We enjoy spending time with a gentleman even if there is little chemistry. We are not in this business only looking for a great time in bed.We are professional and understanding women. I, for one, would never badmouth a client because I had no chemistry with him. When a girl asks me for a reference, I tell her, to the best of my ability, whether she'll be SAFE, and whether she'll be in the presence of someone who is clean and respectful. And- I do not provide references for gentlemen I have only seen once, unless the session went really badly. I feel I don't know them well enough. This is to stop me from making quick judgments about a client. With me, if I give you a bad reference it's because you gave me a reason to give you a bad reference. Tracie, I'm sorry you're having such a hard time with references. You deserve better. Love Amelia I totally agree. The reference thing isn't to chit chat about the gentlemen. We just want to know that someone else has met you and you are cool...meaning your going to show up and be respectful. kisses, Emma A Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A***** A***** 510 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 I totally agree. The reference thing isn't to chit chat about the gentlemen. We just want to know that someone else has met you and you are cool...meaning your going to show up and be respectful.kisses, Emma A That is exactly what it's about. I don't want to steal your previous girl, have no interest in making any kind of trouble, and definately not to gossip about you. I want to ensure that you a)will show up, b)be respectful, c) have good hygiene, that's it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Megan'sTouch 23875 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 Without alluding too much to our private section, I have noticed that many bad dates had a series of good dates. In other words, one good date doesn't mean he's good for life. As such, I'm reluctant to provide a reference because the SP is essentially putting her safety in my hands and I don't want that responsibility. That being said, I do and will continue to provide references because I think the more information, the better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auralie (retired) 227 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 This thread makes me very grateful to be living here in Winnipeg- I think that it's only been twice that SPs haven't got back to me about a reference. Being new and uncertain, I have to say that the support (even just quick e-mail replies) I've received here has been amazing. So thanks Winnipeg- more proof that we have some of the nicest women in the country (and many great women who visit here of course) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mikeyboy 27134 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 All of these answers make sense. It's probably not my place to say but I'm not sure why you would choose not to answer if you had only seen them once. As long as you mention that. "Only saw him the once but he was on time, and reasonably clean at the time..." This is not an endorsement but a statement of fact. Let her decide how to proceed with that information. It just seems like the more information you ladies share with each other, the better for everyone. Just my random thoughts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emma Alexandra 123368 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 All of these answers make sense. It's probably not my place to say but I'm not sure why you would choose not to answer if you had only seen them once. As long as you mention that. "Only saw him the once but he was on time, and reasonably clean at the time..." This is not an endorsement but a statement of fact. Let her decide how to proceed with that information. It just seems like the more information you ladies share with each other, the better for everyone. Just my random thoughts. I will tell the sp that i have only met him once but he better show up for her or i'll kick his ass...lmao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A***** A***** 510 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 I will tell the sp that i have only met him once but he better show up for her or i'll kick his ass...lmao Can I hire you as my ass kicker, not ass kisser :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrgreen760 37785 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 I'll provide the caveat that I'm not much of playa but I do play abit. I've never been asked to provide a reference and likely wouldn't. If there is a provider I'm interested in seeing, I'm prepared to take the time to ensure both parties are comfortable. It's a two way street as far as I'm concerned. I don't rely on reviews to make my decision, I rely on the response I receive when I make an intial contact. If there is an interest I'll ask general questions about services provided and rates, but I don't ask about anything specific. I'm open about who and what I am to the point of sending a pix and providing my contact details. I'm polite, respectful, fun and extremely chosy. I know what I have to offer and if I can't get that across through some communication then so be it, I'll just move along. It's not life or death to me. I do get that there are some fucktards out there and references are a very valuable tool to weed them out. I just feel that very quickly I can demonstrate I'm not one of them. Peace Mr Green :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PistolPete 61421 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 Private section, you are all simply talking about good and bad dates that is all, and no other talk. Don't get me wrong ladies, I'm just throwing this out there for candid conversation not a argument. I would hate to think/find out that there is more information provided that was originally kept between the SP and client. That itself would bothersome to me and I'm sure to other gents. What I do with my time, and who I see is my business not for general discussion, Is that not fair to ask? Not that I'm too worried:wink: but perhaps other issues are brought through your discussions that have jack shit to do with dates? Just asking..... Now that said, I always have said, the ladies safety is paramount, and I agree about reference checks. Some food for thought! Without alluding too much to our private section' date=' I have noticed that many bad dates had a series of good dates. In other words, one good date doesn't mean he's good for life. As such, I'm reluctant to provide a reference because the SP is essentially putting her safety in my hands and I don't want that responsibility. That being said, I do and will continue to provide references because I think the more information, the better.[/quote'] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emma Alexandra 123368 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 Private section, you are all simply talking about good and bad dates that is all, and no other talk. Don't get me wrong ladies, I'm just throwing this out there for candid conversation not a argument. I would hate to think/find out that there is more information provided that was originally kept between the SP and client. That itself would bothersome to me and I'm sure to other gents. What I do with my time, and who I see is my business not for general discussion, Is that not fair to ask? Not that I'm too worried:wink: but perhaps other issues are brought through your discussions that have jack shit to do with dates? Just asking..... Now that said, I always have said, the ladies safety is paramount, and I agree about reference checks. Some food for thought! I'm sure MOD can assure you we do not discuss gentlemen in the Sp section...unless your a total ass and we are warning others... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 Maybe some girls don't give a shit. Maybe they want to 'keep' their client. Maybe she doesn't know who you're talking about because they never met or she doesn't remember. Maybe they don't work anymore. Maybe that girl isn't the one answering her emails. Some of these situations should still merit a response so that you have some confirmation - however, that number of 25% is disappointingly low. This can be a catty business at times though and there's more than a fair share of shady characters or people that only care about themselves. Might even be a reflection of the client in some cases if they are giving a 'reference' that won't respond. I would have been a more blunt to say, unfortunately some girls are bitches and don't give a damn about anyone else. And for those SPs who don't do the reference thing, they have no incentive to respond to you, even if it's just to take 20 seconds out their moment just because.... I've been at this off and on for 15 years and still cant' figure it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Megan'sTouch 23875 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 I'm sure MOD can assure you we do not discuss gentlemen in the Sp section...unless your a total ass and we are warning others... Absolutely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Megan'sTouch 23875 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 What I do with my time, and who I see is my business not for general discussion, Is that not fair to ask? This is true........ unless you assault people, rob people, etc. in which case it is our business. So you don't have anything to worry about :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 Private section, you are all simply talking about good and bad dates that is all, and no other talk. Don't get me wrong ladies, I'm just throwing this out there for candid conversation not a argument. I would hate to think/find out that there is more information provided that was originally kept between the SP and client. That itself would bothersome to me and I'm sure to other gents. What I do with my time, and who I see is my business not for general discussion, Is that not fair to ask? Not that I'm too worried:wink: but perhaps other issues are brought through your discussions that have jack shit to do with dates? Just asking..... Now that said, I always have said, the ladies safety is paramount, and I agree about reference checks. Some food for thought! We've never met but I do enjoy your posts and the fact you seem to have a vast collection of pics always at your fingertips. But you're just not that important to be raving about (sarcastic remark, but true) in the general discussion area. Emma is right. We have enough on our plates with bad dates, no shows and other issues to be discussing other client stuff in general discussion. It might seem negative to you, but look at this way. If a client is NOT mentioned in the SP section, then I consider that a good thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meg O'Ryan 266444 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 If a client is NOT mentioned in the SP section, then I consider that a good thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TracieGold 282 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 I am really glad to hear that this is a general concern for the ladies and some of the men. To answer to ED: ED, this is not a matter of liking or disliking a client or an SP; this is safety; WE ABSOLUTELY NEVER DISCUSS CLIENTS, we just say, things like "you are safe with him" or "he is a gentlemen", or " ask for another reference because I did not have a good time with him and it may have been me", or the worst of all " I did not feel safe with him/ or his behavior and language was not appropriate/ or he was high on some stuff, etc" Amelia put it wonderfully (Thanks Amelia you are such a sweet heart if you come to Ottawa all the gentlemen will be happy!!!!). I am not concerned about looks, or what did you do while you were together; what did you talk about or what relationship you got with the SP; that is absolutely not our question when we ask for referrals. Most of us receive you in our houses; we are trusting you with our lives, our possessions and any of you would do the same if you were in our place. Being naked with a man (even if he is not very strong) puts us in the weakest part of the chain. Add to that that we are at home and I read cases of men giving Canadian Tire money or being verbally inappropriate or physically "hard" on our private parts. We need the safety of knowing the gentlemen are just normal men, not depraved and not jerks. Of course there is still a little bit of danger , but we run with it, it is part of the turf. Please understand Pete, this is not talking about you as Pete, rather about you as a safe individual, clean, polite and respectful. If an SP is rude to you I guess you have to tell the MOD's and she will be off scope and out of sight..... Please gentlemen understand us. This is not against you, this is to serve you better; to be relaxed when you arrive; to be able to trustt your hands and share our beds. Regarding the ladies who decide not to answer because they feel the life of the other SP may be on her hands if something bad happens (God forbid!), the solution is simple to explain that to the SP requesting the referral and ask her to request from the gentleman another reference, and if he does not have one, well, the sixth sense has to be tuned up. Thanks to all Tracie (all these ladies are adorable; they always respond!!):rolleyes: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PistolPete 61421 Report post Posted March 26, 2010 "Private section, you are all simply talking about good and bad dates that is all, and no other talk." I'm not concerned about myself never have been and never will be. This thread is being read by many others-including your bad dates, no shows, and newbies. My thread was to make those aware, what exactly the SP section is used for since, I have received a couple questions about that area. LMAO a couple of people thought I was a moderator, I had to tell them straight, "NO" Angela, yes we never met. I do not look at it in a negative way, if fact in life; if you choose to look at issues negatively, it normally comes back to bite you in the ass.:butt: And yes Megan, it is your business as I said "Your safety is paramount always" Most worthy thread for many to read, and hopefully have true understanding what happens if you are total "ass" with a lady. So info is very important when requested from SP to SP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites