Newton 714 Report post Posted April 14, 2010 ...maybe i should start a class on all this stuff for the new ladies..lol Now, that's a good idea, Emma. Escorts Studio, anyone? ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrgreen760 37785 Report post Posted April 14, 2010 As usual another interesting subject. Perhaps it an age thing, but I've never asked the sog question prior to meeting some one or even after I've met them. One or two or more isn't the interest to me. It's more about the woman I'm going to see and the overal experience. I'll know going in I'm not going to get ripped off. And it's my hour and if I choose to read poetry or pontificate on my view of the world and am willing to pay their rate for that then so be it. If during the hour and she's amenable, I manage to get a couple shots off....good for me :) Sometimes I can sometimes I can't.....extra innings isn't going to make any difference. In the end for me it's all about about how you choose your dance partner :) Peace Mr Green Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Selena_20 333 Report post Posted April 14, 2010 i think the problem is that there are too many sp that don't enjoy what they do and it's all about business. They get there, want to get down to business and then their done. I call it greed! They ruin if for us as these guys sometimes never recover and choose to never see another sp. It's obvious that this day and age, you have to make sure you know what is on the menu. All details and none left out. I mean sure, i will admit that there have been a few clients that wanted sex twice in the hour and because of their rather large size, I was out of commision but it's not to say I didn't take care of him in other ways which I did ;) This is a sensitive issue and everybody does things differently but if you have noticed, ALL GOOD SP PROVIDERS do things the same. Were honest, genuinely friendly and don't spend our time looking at the clock. You pay the hour, it's your hour and your whole hour unless you want it to end early. I agree that most men don't go twice in an hour and if they do, it sometimes gets frustrating for the bobbyist so 2 hours would be appropriate if it's possible. I haven't been doing this that long but I do know that I want repeat business and being dishonest about what services your provide is BS but in the long run, these sp eventually don't make a come back. They may change their names but they are always found out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest S***dst*** Report post Posted April 14, 2010 I believe you shouldn't shop when you are hungry because you want everything! I apply the same logic when chosing to visit an escort/provider. (don't do it...horney) Within reason of course. While I enjoy the finale a lot, it's much better with the ooohs and aaaah of seeing the lions with a head in its mouth or a ring master cracking her whip (couldn't think of better innuendos involving circus performers... clown spraying another clown in the face..would that be too far?) Call me bias, but I much prefer the cuddling after to a second shot on goal. You should always ask about anything on your mind at the start, conversation before is much more than a way to make a connection ..this is another reason I hate 30m encounters, you have no time to talk AND enjoy yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
etasman2000 15994 Report post Posted April 14, 2010 i think the problem is that there are too many sp that don't enjoy what they do and it's all about business. They get there, want to get down to business and then their done. I call it greed! Possibly. I prefer a more charitable view....could just simply be lack of knowledge (how do I do this ?) or even desperation (end of the month and need to make rent). Never attribute to malice what can be explain by ________ Cheers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoyfulC 132299 Report post Posted April 14, 2010 Possibly. I prefer a more charitable view....could just simply be lack of knowledge (how do I do this ?) or even desperation (end of the month and need to make rent). Never attribute to malice what can be explain by ________ Cheers! Could also be the influence of a man. I'm sorry to say it, but over the years, I've known many pimps and men who exploit prostitutes. Almost to a man, they seek to instruct their girls to take a predatory view towards the customer. You'd think, being men themselves, they'd advocate for the man's perspective to help their girls provide better service and get more repeat business -- but instead, they seem to prefer to use their knowledge of men against the customer's interests. It's also a way of keeping control of the girls. After all, many women (especially young women) who are involved in this business are a bit isolated. It's not like they can ask their family or community for advice. But one person a young prostitute does come into contact with and who she can learn from is her customer! Often the customer has the prostitute's interests at heart far more than her pimp does! For that reason, a pimp always strives to poison a prostitute's mind against her customers to reduce any influence they might have on her. When I first started, in the 70s, it was almost always like this. The conventional wisdom was that, when a man is "thinking with the little head," he'll pay more. Consequently, the majority of customers got burned back in those days. We're lucky now to have the internet and an open dialogue between the hobbyist and the SP. We can learn more from each other than from anyone else. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankthetank 123 Report post Posted April 15, 2010 When all is said and done, people learn from bad experiences. I certainly had one, and it may have been the same person. I will leave it at that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Selena_20 333 Report post Posted April 15, 2010 Yes I agree 100% percent :lol: Additional Comments: I agree JoyfulC. Repeat business is how we become successful. xoxo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Secrets of Victoria 7208 Report post Posted April 12, 2012 Although this is late in replying (just wandering through the threads), my take on encounters of gfe is this: I do not like the 1/2 hour times, what can you give in 30 minutes that isn't just the 'wham-bam'? Not much in my book. MSOG, or SSOG, is what I like to be able to achieve, if that's what the guy wants. Some don't, they like the anticipation at the end of a fantastic journey. More hours does not necessarily mean MSOG will happen for the guy, but it certainly is attainable if he wants it. I include a lot in my gfe, but, every sp is different. I am very upfront about what I offer in it, and will take the time to explain what my time for gfe includes, saves a lot of hassle in the long run. Any good sp will be honest and forthcoming with what she offers, there should be no 'surprises' after the client has arrived at the location (or in the case of outcall, when the sp arrives), but all details should have been taken care of beforehand, to ensure a more pleasurable experience. I would never consider telling anyone a donation for gfe then informing them that was only to get me there! And then to add, 'everything else extra is on top', absolutely no way! My donations are clearly defined, and my offerings are well spelled out long beforehand, so that there are no misunderstandings. If someone has a special request after an encounter has started, such as going from a very informal massage for one hour to a 3 hour gfe/PSE encounter, obviously it would be up for discussion, time permitting of course. There are a lot of things to learn in this business, I have been doing this for over 12 years, and yes, made mistakes in the beginning, but I am very clear and thorough when explaining everything to a potential client. I know my regular clients appreciate that fact, as they keep coming back, and I still go over all the details with them like it's brand new. Anyone new in the business should be asking other sp's what's included with certain scenarios, and familiarize themselves with the terms. By all means, set your own guidelines, but don't offer gfe if your not going to perform gfe. That to me is false advertising and makes the guys hesitant to call upon us. Be schooled in what you are portraying. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted April 12, 2012 Well I'll throw in my two cents worth here. For me, I book, at a minimum, two hour encounters, more often three hours, sometimes more. Is it because to me I'm looking for msog? No. The ladies I see I see as companions, and an encounter to me is much much more than seeing how many sog's I can get. Not to mention at my age, I'm lucky for one sog. Multiple hours are for me, to enjoy the lady's company. If my concern was simply sog's, I'd schedule half hour encounters only, and that would factor in time to get undressed and dressed again LOL. And I've been pretty lucky, the ladies I've met are ladies worth meeting and getting to know. And my encounters with the ladies have enriched my life An afternoon rambling RG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest W***ledi*Time Report post Posted April 13, 2012 There seems to be slightly different understandings as to what MSOG implies. Paradoxically, MSOG isn't necessarily about how often your score. In my mind, the definition of MSOG is simply that the time that a client pays for should be equal to the time that the client is allowed to spend with his lady. The client has purchased the time, and MSOG implies that he can spend that time any way he wants (subject to the usual constraints of proper conduct and respect for the lady, of course), be it chatting, cuddling, or trying for as many releases as he so chooses. The major issue, from the client's perspective, is that a lady who does not offer MSOG may in fact consider that the client who has purchased "one hour", has not in fact purchased the privilege of spending one hour's time with her. According to the interpretation of some non-msog ladies, the client who has purchased "one hour" has instead only purchased the privelege of one release, which must happen within a one hour maximum. The client, in her view, is purchasing a release instead of time. Just as soon as a release happens, the client has received the entire service he has contracted-for, and she considers the encounter over, no matter how quickly that release occurs. The client is booted out the door, even if he has purchased "one hour", and has only spent a tiny fraction of that time with her. Under this particular definition, "No MSOG" means: "One shot and you're out." It's like turning into a pumpkin before midnight strikes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drlove 37204 Report post Posted April 13, 2012 There seems to be slightly different understandings as to what MSOG implies. Paradoxically, MSOG isn't necessarily about how often your score. In my mind, the definition of MSOG is simply that the time that a client pays for should be equal to the time that the client is allowed to spend with his lady. The client has purchased the time, and MSOG implies that he can spend that time any way he wants (subject to the usual constraints of proper conduct and respect for the lady, of course), be it chatting, cuddling, or trying for as many releases as he so chooses. The major issue, from the client's perspective, is that a lady who does not offer MSOG may in fact consider that the client who has purchased "one hour", has not in fact purchased the privilege of spending one hour's time with her. According to the interpretation of some non-msog ladies, the client who has purchased "one hour" has instead only purchased the privelege of one release, which must happen within a one hour maximum. The client, in her view, is purchasing a release instead of time. Just as soon as a release happens, the client has received the entire service he has contracted-for, and she considers the encounter over, no matter how quickly that release occurs. The client is booted out the door, even if he has purchased "one hour", and has only spent a tiny fraction of that time with her. Under this particular definition, "No MSOG" means: "One shot and you're out." It's like turning into a pumpkin before midnight strikes. A very good analysis/analogy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites