jg24 3708 Report post Posted August 16, 2014 (edited) Tonight I had an experience that totally disgusted me and I got up dressed and walked out on the lady. Things started of nicely little bbbj and then returned the favor while doing DATY I felt something touch my lip I moved back to find a bloody spunge slipping out of the ladies vagina. I got up asked if she was having her time she said yes but there is a spunge so its ok well NO the spounge is not in you. I felt this to be gross to me if a lady is at the time of month either don't work or only offer service that does not include vaginal activities Edited August 16, 2014 by jg24 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katherine of Halifax 113932 Report post Posted August 16, 2014 You have every feeling available in your mind, body and spirit to feel this way . I don't feel ( personally this is a good idea ) however it seems to be the norm . As ladies we can't afford to not be available up to a week a month, delima. I do not judge ever anyone ever but I do think full disclosure is really important . We as women all have out periods . Men know this . Do you accept this or really shy against it, or not? Decide. its pretty simple. Katherine 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted August 16, 2014 It's against cerb rules to air your dirty laundry in public. You know full well guys will be pm'ing you to ask who the lady is. Not cool. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamst 190 Report post Posted August 16, 2014 (edited) Tonight I had an experience that totally disgusted me and I got up dressed and walked out on the lady. Things started of nicely little bbbj and then returned the favor while doing DATY I felt something touch my lip I moved back to find a bloody spunge slipping out of the ladies vagina. I got up asked if she was having her time she said yes but there is a spunge so its ok well NO the spounge is not in you. I felt this to be gross to me if a lady is at the time of month either don't work or only offer service that does not include vaginal activities I grabbed my money off the table left her $40 bucks of the fee we had agreed on and left. Thats brutal man. I can't imagine anyone would stay after that. That is unsanitary and unsafe. Nobody works 30 days a month, 12 months of the year straight. Seems to me common sense would dictate that would be when you take days off. At the very least inform the client your situation and let them decide. 2 simple words could have avoided all this, NO DATY. Edited August 18, 2014 by adamst Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Studio 110 by Sophia 150333 Report post Posted August 16, 2014 As Angela said, I hope you don't give her name out, but I do understand your shocked and disgusted too:( Made me shiver reading that, lol. I would say majority of ladies, including myself would never allow oral during that time. For myself I would take the days off needed or perhaps just offer a body rub and oral for you, I mean this IS blood to mouth! Perhaps she is new to this and wasn't sure how to handle this situation. Sometimes ladies are embarrassed to say it straight up, or maybe she just could not afford to loose the appt. I feel bad for her too, as it must have been awfully awkward on her too. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jg24 3708 Report post Posted August 16, 2014 The ladies name will not be revealed . I'm not trying to expose her just wanted peoples thoughts if Mod thinks it is inappropriate then it can be deleted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luckyme 41401 Report post Posted August 16, 2014 The ladies name will not be revealed . I'm not trying to expose her just wanted peoples thoughts if Mod thinks it is inappropriate then it can be deleted. My take is that it is a legitimate discussion topic as long as you are not trying to expose or reveal the identity of the lady. Of course, I am no Mod and he has the final say. Personally, this had happened to me twice - and I won't disclose who were the ladies. I agree with you that when it happened it was shocking and unpleasant, not to mention that it is highly unsafe. As Katherine and Suite Escapes say, the ladies may have the need to continue working but full disclosure is really important and other services could be offered in lieu of FS and Daty. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted August 16, 2014 (edited) I see no problem with escorts using sponges, providing the escort is upfront and honest about it. If the escort tells her clients in advanced, that she's on her period, they may not mind. I can't see any escorts publicly announcing that they are on their period, in the advertising section but it may be a good idea to announce it privately via the escorts mailing list. What do you guys think? Do you think it would be okay for escorts to privately let clients know(via mailing lists) that they're on their period but they're still willing to take clients? Is that too much information? If clients don't want full service, there's other options, for example erotic massage or whatever the escort of choice wants to offer. I'm not talking about giving a discounted price for full service with sponges: I'm talking about a more honest approach to this situation. Some regulars don't mind seeing the escort of their choice because they enjoy spending time with them. Edited August 16, 2014 by Guest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted August 16, 2014 (edited) Private communication between a SP/Client is OK and at least for me would be respected. But no need to publicly disclose it I could see where regular clients would like to see a special lady, for some gentlemen it's the overall connection/companionship a lady provides more than individual menu items she offers. Also for some it is the menu the lady offers and a client might feel upset that the lady couldn't offer everything. If he had known he could have reschedule their date It's a matter of mutual respect. The lady respecting the man enough to tell him so he can make arrangements knowingly. And the man respecting the lady to understand "life happens" If that makes sense A rambling RG Edited August 16, 2014 by r__m__g_uy 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bianca Jaguar 39183 Report post Posted August 16, 2014 I read this thread very late last night and I wanted to reply with a clear mind...I guess you have a right to be disgusted...everybody reacts differently to that situation... There is something though that bothers me and really ticked me off here is that you took the donation and left 40$! Thats what bothers me the most...I'm sure there will be lots of different opinions on this issue but if you decide to leave because you are disgusted with the situation, the donation should stay there...yes maybe she should have been upfront about it but, for me, its not a reason to take the donation and barely leave Pocket change... Personally i do work with sponges ( for what I have left of period lol) and there is no way you could ever tell coz they are really deep in there. But yes I started my period many times during sessions...that i could not predict... Just my opinion... BJ 16 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phaedrus 209521 Report post Posted August 16, 2014 I can't see how surprising a client with this could be expected to end well. OK, there are doubtless some who would see getting it on at that time of the month as a positive thing, but I think they're probably a minority of the population. I'd have thought most reactions would range from neutral to strongly negative. However, expecting SPs to take one week in every four off is quite possibly going to make life difficult for them. In the past I've seen SPs offer BJ-only or BJ+greek appointments for a few days at a time on a regular basis, which seems like an entirely reasonable thing to do. There's no reason not to do FS appointments, provided everyone's OK with that. But whatever you do, the most important thing is to be honest and up-front about it. If a client wants to avoid that, then there's always next week... As a side note, it strikes me that what the ladies really need is to get some sort of button installed that they can press and just flush everything out in one go, rather than this messy process over a few days. This seems like an obvious design enhancement to me. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miss S. Lane 67128 Report post Posted August 16, 2014 Ok -- there are a few things that jumped out at me as I read this thread, both the OP post and the comments. 1. A woman needs to disclose when it's that time of the month? That seems awfully private, and extreme. 2. Women in this industry REGULARLY, and SUCCESSFULLY, work through their period with things such as sponges or soft cups. It happens ALL the time. 3. How mortified this poor woman must have felt by the completely immature way you reacted. Clearly the sponge became dislodged. And you know what? Menstruation is a fact of life. She didn't know that happened, or mean for it to. She's likely worked through her period COUNTLESS times with no issue. 4. Asking women to not work during their period is ridiculous. 5. Taking the donation and insulting her further by leaving $40?!!?!! It was an unfortunate incident that wasn't planned. It was dealt with poorly by you, and that poor woman wasn't given a chance to correct the situation -- and then ALSO had to lose out on her pay for that booking? Complete and utter disrespect. SO much wrong with this!!!!!! 26 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Two Thirty 1422 Report post Posted August 16, 2014 Well said Miss Lane. I'd say also that the SP disclosing the fact in advance would probably be best, to allow the client to make an informed choice to receive the service, which could alleviate any potential self-consciousness on the part of the SP to provide her time and service. Consent is everything. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phaedrus 209521 Report post Posted August 16, 2014 1. A woman needs to disclose when it's that time of the month? That seems awfully private, and extreme. Much of this industry revolves around the revelation of things that are generally considered private, from the revealing photos and self-descriptions posted my many (if not most) providers, to the very detailed reviews and recommendations posted by their clients, to the questions and answers about what may or may not take place during an encounter. This doesn't strike me as being any worse than a lot of other stuff that's just accepted as part of the way the business operates. But then, I'm a guy and nobody's paying much attention to my body on a daily basis, so I may simply not understand... 2. Women in this industry REGULARLY, and SUCCESSFULLY, work through their period with things such as sponges or soft cups. It happens ALL the time. Fair enough. And when it works well and the client is none the wiser... no harm, no foul. But there's a chance that things might not go so smoothly, and in this case having been up-front about it would probably have been the better option. It's up to each individual lady to decide for herself what the chances are of things slipping, and what the consequences might be, and therefore whether or not to disclose things in advance. Perhaps guys who feel very strongly about this should mention it when booking so that they can delay until next week if need be, but that opens the door to a whole other pile of awkward... 3. How mortified this poor woman must have felt by the completely immature way you reacted. Clearly the sponge became dislodged. And you know what? Menstruation is a fact of life. She didn't know that happened, or mean for it to. She's likely worked through her period COUNTLESS times with no issue. Three things on this. The first is to simply note that there are some folks out there who don't deal with blood at all well, irrespective of its origin. Second, there's the health angle. No encounter is risk-free from this point of view, and we all make our own decisions about what level of risk we are or are not prepared to accept... but I don't think most of us consider blood-exposure when doing so. Saliva, sweat, semen, vaginal mucus? Yes, all the time. But urine and feces and blood are not things that most of us would expect to encounter unless something had been explicitly arranged. And of those, blood is by far the most efficient at transferring pathogens. It opens up a whole load of new things to worry about, including many things that aren't usually considered STIs. It doesn't strike me as unreasonable to be unhappy if a health-risk that you hadn't expected is suddenly thrown at you, no matter what sex you are or which side of the client-provider relationship you're on. Finally, to quote the OP: "I felt something touch my lip I moved back to find a bloody spunge slipping out of the ladies vagina." I've never had anything remotely like that happen to me, and I can't honestly say I'd react gracefully if it did. Reactions to this sort of thing are likely to be immediate, visceral, and not the result of some well-thought-out reasoning. It's not clear to me that calling the OP immature is either reasonable or helpful. 11 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mod 135640 Report post Posted August 17, 2014 Airing out dirt laundry is not allowed but discussion on this topic is permitted. If the name of the lady is not released (private or public) then we will allow this discussion to continue.... If the ladies name is released i will issue infractions and possibly suspension/bans 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katherine of Halifax 113932 Report post Posted August 17, 2014 (edited) Just one more thought from me on this issue. Funny how issues evolve . I had unexpected spotting today which can happen at any time with us woman. I was somewhat embarrassed but treated it lightly and it was taken just as lightly. Accidents happens , gosh while making love one can need to pee and God forbid we fart. |We are human beings and the unexpected functions happens at times and as adults I am able to laugh these accidents off. All this is really small compared to the issue at hand. End of day, all women menstruate. Is this sexy ? Not necessarily so unless you have a fetish that makes it really desirable. I really think end of day, just be honest. If you are having your period and using a sponge tell your guest, then its his decision and all stress is taken away . Easy , honesty goes around the world and back. Now I am trying to think of a parallel situation that a gent may want to share with us to make the date stress free . Both men and women have an obligation to disclose anything that would make a date uncomfortable for either so lets just be honest and talk. August 16th, 2014 . No need for surprises that are unpleasant. Edited August 17, 2014 by Katherine spelling 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrgreen760 37785 Report post Posted August 17, 2014 I would expect a heads up as it were...in advance. Then I can decide to go forward or not. Peace MG 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katherine of Halifax 113932 Report post Posted August 17, 2014 Tonight I had an experience that totally disgusted me and I got up dressed and walked out on the lady. Things started of nicely little bbbj and then returned the favor while doing DATY I felt something touch my lip I moved back to find a bloody spunge slipping out of the ladies vagina. I got up asked if she was having her time she said yes but there is a spunge so its ok well NO the spounge is not in you. I felt this to be gross to me if a lady is at the time of month either don't work or only offer service that does not include vaginal activities Further and as afterthoughts to you . If you are not aware these things happen . I feel badly you were put in a position that perhaps horrified you in this way. Please just be assured that we never, ever want this type of thing to happen but..... it does . Is has happened before and it always will in the future. This certainly can't parallel to what happened to you but it has happened in my personal life and perhaps it was not met with total appreciation. Here is my answer and its quite " pat" I am a woman and yes blood comes out of my vagina on a monthly basics , you need to expect this and if not perhaps a MTM would be better for you. Please I am not trying to diminish your situation but this is life. I try really hard to make sure my dates are stress free and without trouble . But oh my I am constantly reminded and shown things rarely turn out how I plan . Soo, I have learned to smile and sometimes be embarrassed but at the end of the day I am a fragile human being. I hope this helps ! xo 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jg24 3708 Report post Posted August 17, 2014 Thanks for the comments I'm well aware that ladies work thru this but I think a for warning would be appropriate. It should be disclosed and then a client has the choice I agree with Peachy's comments. I don't want to condem the lady for this who knows why this happened but did and sorry to me was a little gross. I just feel it should be disclosed and yes some ladies offer only certain services during these times. One lady I saw regularly advised me upfront but we still had a great time so it can work advising the client Thanks again for the comments Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacectryguy 12547 Report post Posted August 17, 2014 I would say that possibly disclosing that this is happening would probably be a good option but obviously, some ladies don't feel that way and it is their decision in the end. I think for fellas that love DATY, this could raise some issues if this accident occurs or if there were any leaking or anything of that nature. So knowing up front and possibly taking DATY off the menu would just be a little better way to go. Just my opinion. I do have a question for you ladies out there though. During this time and having the sponge in there, does it negatively impact the pleasure and experience for you? If so, do you just do your best to "fake it" so to speak? I'm just curious here because a big part of the enjoyment I get out of this hobby comes from the mutual pleasure. If I get any thought that the lady is just "going through the motions" and not really getting pleasure, it is a big turn-off for me. I do have a lot of experience and am pretty astute at picking up on signals but obviously, some are better at acting it out better than others. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted August 17, 2014 I would say that possibly disclosing that this is happening would probably be a good option but obviously, some ladies don't feel that way and it is their decision in the end. I think for fellas that love DATY, this could raise some issues if this accident occurs or if there were any leaking or anything of that nature. So knowing up front and possibly taking DATY off the menu would just be a little better way to go. Just my opinion. I do have a question for you ladies out there though. During this time and having the sponge in there, does it negatively impact the pleasure and experience for you? If so, do you just do your best to "fake it" so to speak? I'm just curious here because a big part of the enjoyment I get out of this hobby comes from the mutual pleasure. If I get any thought that the lady is just "going through the motions" and not really getting pleasure, it is a big turn-off for me. I do have a lot of experience and am pretty astute at picking up on signals but obviously, some are better at acting it out better than others. In my opinion the sponges do not affect the experience at all. For 97% of the time you don't have to worry about leakage, but just incase, in my opinion, it's good to give a heads up. The only difference between a normal session and a session with a sponge, is the sponge part. However, shit happens and in my opinion telling the client in advance safeguards the sp *IF* something was to happen. It also give the client the choice of what he wants to go forward with. Negotiating a cheaper price is not one of those things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacectryguy 12547 Report post Posted August 17, 2014 Thank you Peachy. Good to know that it doesn't effect things too much. And I totally agree with you, negotiating the price is never an option and should never be. Just being informed and making a decision based on that information is enough. I think the only thing that I would avoid would be the DATY, as much as I love that part. Just as a precaution. I would never worry about the FS otherwise. One thing to add before I get off here, I do agree that despite the shock of something like this happening, I don't think that I would take all of my donation back like that. I would more likely have just said I couldn't continue and left it up to the lady to possibly offer something. A reschedule or whatever. If not, then so be it. I do agree with some that have posted that this would have been very hard for her too. I think that a few moments of pause and reflection when an accident of this nature occurs could have made a huge difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cat 262460 Report post Posted August 17, 2014 I think it's unrealistic to expect a provider to take a week off every month given the prices here in Canada. Can anyone imagine losing 25% of their income due to an unavoidable, naturally occurring event? In the past I have worked thru my period and never had an issue. Some clients I informed if I knew they may have an issue, others I didn't. I've used sponges for most of my career because penetration often caused break thru bleeding which was not part of my menstrual cycle. Life happens, especially during sex. Obviously the provider needed the income or she wouldn't have been working thru her cycle. Taking the donation back certainly gives clear indication of character and shows someones view of providers clearly. I for one, appreciate when clients post situations like this and their reaction to it as it allows me to see who they are... cat 18 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piano8950 32577 Report post Posted August 17, 2014 I was once cancelled the morning of an appointment because she was experiencing the "time of the month" - her words. She cancelled because she said that it wouldn't be fair for me, and then offered a discount for the next time. Which was very sweet but unneeded. Honestly, I don't know how I'd react, so I'm not going to comment on what the OP did. With someone with more knowledge on the subject kindly share the science of it all. Many ladies have seemed to take the position that it is ridiculous to not work for a week a month. If anyone can comment on what it means in terms of safety, I think it might clear up a lot of misconceptions. Some guys, myself included are very clueless about periods :P - literally all I know is that it happens once a month, tampons and blood are involved, and sometimes it causes cramps. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cat 262460 Report post Posted August 18, 2014 I was once cancelled the morning of an appointment because she was experiencing the "time of the month" - her words. She cancelled because she said that it wouldn't be fair for me, and then offered a discount for the next time. Which was very sweet but unneeded. Honestly, I don't know how I'd react, so I'm not going to comment on what the OP did. With someone with more knowledge on the subject kindly share the science of it all. Many ladies have seemed to take the position that it is ridiculous to not work for a week a month. If anyone can comment on what it means in terms of safety, I think it might clear up a lot of misconceptions. Some guys, myself included are very clueless about periods :P - literally all I know is that it happens once a month, tampons and blood are involved, and sometimes it causes cramps. You basic understanding is accurate and this is a really good question. Thank you for asking. I believe playing during a period changes the risk factors negligibly when handled correctly. Periods can cycle anywhere from 14 to a 40 day cycle, lasting 1 to 14 days and the flow varies depending on the woman's hormone cycle. Some women cramp, some don't. For some, sex is intolerably painful during menses, for others it relieves cramps. Tampons, pads, keepers and cups can be used when not having sexual intercourse but sponges can used when playing. Simply put, the sponges act like tampons without interfering with penetration. If men would be more open minded to using a dental dam and play safely then this would be a moot conversation. For me the bottom line is the only responsible play utilizes barrier methods for all acts that have the potential for the exchange of bodily fluids. If a man balks at using a dental dam but insists on daty with a woman knowing that she is a fertile, healthy potentially menstruating woman, then he assumes the risk that she may in fact be menstruating, getting ready to menstruate so the actual act could bring it on or she could have just ceased bleeding and there may still be blood traces hiding in her uterus that could be released during the function of lubrication during a rendezvous. I think that heterosexual men need to understand the amazing biology of the female reproductive cycle so for more information, those with more questions can further research it online... cat 11 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites