Selena_20 333 Report post Posted April 13, 2010 Curious to know what everyone thinks about this. I have my opinion but open to hearing what is your take on this subject. There are no right or wrong answers as we all do things our own way and that is totally okay. I just want to know your points of views as a sp and as a hobbyist. What do you think are regular services normally included in the donation rate? Do you feel its okay to charge extra for kissing, msog and/or daty? What is defined as an extra? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A***** A***** 510 Report post Posted April 13, 2010 Curious to know what everyone thinks about this. I have my opinion but open to hearing what is your take on this subject. There are no right or wrong answers as we all do things our own way and that is totally okay. I just want to know your points of views as a sp and as a hobbyist. What do you think are regular services normally included in the donation rate? Do you feel its okay to charge extra for kissing, msog and/or daty? What is defined as an extra? When I| am at home, I have two sets of rates. Basic full service, and then gfe full service. When I travel, it's all inclusive. The only thing I would ever charge extra for (if I offered it) would be greek, and strap on. As those require extra prep work so to say, and it would IMHO discourage the tire kickers. You do what you feel is right for you, and no one else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meg O'Ryan 266444 Report post Posted April 13, 2010 I agree with Angela....whatever you feel comfortable with! I am pretty much all inclusive (but my restrictions are non-negotiable) other than the infamous bbbj which I do charge extra for and offer only at my own discretion. You have the right to offer what you wish at the rate that you wish and to deny anything that makes you uncomfortable! If you are happy then you will provide a stellar service; if you are unhappy it will show! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dunkinsailor 1220 Report post Posted April 13, 2010 I've found in ANY business where the primary product service is emotion-based, having "packages" with package pricing tends to result in fewer misunderstandings/lost customers than having an extras menu where each extra has its own price tag. Examples are cruises, honeymoons, weekend getaways, etc. The more analyzing the client needs to do in calculating just what extras they want and how much it will cost, the more blood flows to the analytical part of the brain, and the more the emotional parts begin to feel slighted. Which I think is why so many travel destinations are all-inclusive - the more involvement the emotional side of the brain has in the decisions, the more money they make. When the pricing structure seems common sense and easy-going, I feel more at ease believing those characteristics are also part of the sp's personality. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peachka 4334 Report post Posted April 13, 2010 I see it as paying for a Lady's time. I am not interested in greek & if there is a menu with different rates, I move along to another SP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AmberWyld 311 Report post Posted April 13, 2010 I agree with what the other girls have basically stated. I believe its the right of the SP's to charge what ever they so desire for their services, but THEY SHOULD NOT falsely quote or advertise their donations, then change them up after the date had begun. This is bad practice and leaves the hobbyist with a sour taste and a bad experience. Which at times does carry on to the next SP he/she may see next. But for the most part, most hobbyist know which SP’s commonly do this , thereby hurting themselves really more than they hurt the rest of the community of Sp’s. As for myself, My rates are as stated, but like Angela, I have two versions. Donations for when I am at home within my own area, and another for when I am traveling and doing a booking else where. And even then, its not much of a difference… just enough to slightly offset the higher costs of entertaining out of my own area. To each their own though, and all SP’s can do as she/he sees fit. Those that operate in a misleading fashion soon fall out of the business all together because they become known to all hobbyist. And sometimes, the few that do fail try to change their names, but it all comes out in the end. The MOST important aspect in all this is to play safe and be safe… Follow your gut feelings!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emma Alexandra 123368 Report post Posted April 13, 2010 Charging for extras doesn't make you an escort/companion...to me if you charge for extras {excluding greek} or have a menu then your not an escort...your a provider...as in.. for this price you get this and this and for a little more you can do that too...it's not what alot of us ladies want...what kind of chemistry can come from this and that ...now mind you if someone wants to chage more for bbbj sure that's cool because it's her safety at risk...but for the menu thing i really don't think one could say your an escort..sorry that's my rant...i get so insulted when someone asks me for this or that and how much it is...I as many ladies do have a set price which mostly includes..gfe-kissing,daty,bj{with or without condom..ladies' choise} fs...different positions...then for some they can add the pse style with all the little things it includes...but for a set price...it would be a pain in the ass to have a menu...and no fun for me...lol..i would be thinking to much and not enjoying my time with the gent.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest W***ledi*Time Report post Posted April 13, 2010 There is nothing wrong with a menu system, as long as everything is clearly explained upfront. Personally, however, I prefer not to have to pick and choose exactly what I might wind up wanting to do from an abstract list of normal "services" beforehand. It's a LOT more relaxing to just let things develop naturally during the meeting -- through inter-personal give-and-take. Follow the fun down whatever path beckons, I say ... without having to worry about the legalese in some pre-session agreement! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mod 135640 Report post Posted April 13, 2010 Recently I have received complaints about one of the advertisers because of this. She listed a pile of services she offers (they were standard stuff that most escorts do not charge extra for) and she posted her hourly rates. The guys show up and she says "That hourly rate includes ONE of those services, each additional service is extra" The services listed were like "Kissing, daty, bbbj, fs, etc..." I don't blame the guy for being mad and wanted to write to warn everyone about her as the post was VERY misleading. It read like all these services were included for this price and had NO mention in the ads that ONE of these was included and the rest were "Extra". This to me is FALSE advertising when you show up and get a surprise like that. Be honest in your advertising to your reputation will go down. Guys expect to pay more for greek, fetish and pse type stuff. I don't think anyone would complain about that as it is expected... but if a guy shows up and says lets start with a BJ than FS and the lady says ok that will be an extra 50.00 for the second service.... I think he is probably going to be pissed. This is probably why a lot of guys annoy the ladies with all the questions... ladies out here do pull these "Scams" and you can't blame the guys for wanting to be 100% sure they are not getting scammed again and again. I notice some of the ladies have very little patience for guys asking questions (Especially notice this in the chat room here) and really... it's part of the business and the BAD ladies are the reason why (You may list all the services on your website or ad but obviously the other ladies who are not including all the services listed are doing the same thing and waiting till the guy shows up and pays the "FLAT FEE" before they spring on the "Oh, That will cost you extra" (And I am sure this is a HUGE mood killer too). Unfortunately the worse this stuff gets the harder it makes all of the GOOD ladies jobs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoyfulC 132299 Report post Posted April 13, 2010 I don't charge extra for different levels of service -- only for different venues. I really am not an outcall person, and so I charge more for that. When I have to go into town and get a room to see people, my rates are slightly higher in consideration of my higher overhead. But here at home, that's where I can give my best rates. Mind you, it's not convenient for everyone, but it is more convenient and cost effective for me -- hence the lower rate. (... oh man, did I really say "hence"?? Yikes.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VedaSloan 119179 Report post Posted April 13, 2010 My rates are all inclusive as well and I do offer things like Greek and fetish activities. I do it this way because it's easier to remember what I charge, there is no confusion when guys book (you book an hour, you pay the hourly rate) and everybody has fun. At one point I did have two rates, but honestly, it just got confusing remembering who booked what. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotchJohnson 214132 Report post Posted April 13, 2010 My rates are all inclusive as well and I do offer things like Greek and fetish activities. I do it this way because it's easier to remember what I charge, there is no confusion when guys book (you book an hour, you pay the hourly rate) and everybody has fun. At one point I did have two rates, but honestly, it just got confusing remembering who booked what. I believe this is the way to go myself, advertise what you have to offer and the rate that goes with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
explorer69 3513 Report post Posted April 13, 2010 One price is the way to go. I won't repeat with someone who asks extra for different services that are standard (fk/bj/daty/msog). I especially do not like different prices for bbbj/cbj. Either you do bbbj or you don't(subject to ymmv). It is no extra work. I understand and expect that Greek would be extra as this is industry practice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VedaSloan 119179 Report post Posted April 13, 2010 One price is the way to go. I won't repeat with someone who asks extra for different services that are standard (fk/bj/daty/msog). I especially do not like different prices for bbbj/cbj. Either you do bbbj or you don't(subject to ymmv). It is no extra work. I understand and expect that Greek would be extra as this is industry practice. For those SP's who charge extra for bbbj, it has nothing to do with the amount of work involved, the extra cost is because there is more risk involved. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
explorer69 3513 Report post Posted April 13, 2010 For those SP's who charge extra for bbbj, it has nothing to do with the amount of work involved, the extra cost is because there is more risk involved. yeah but you take the risk or not. I respect that decision, but I don't respect charging more. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PistolPete 61421 Report post Posted April 13, 2010 Do you feel its okay to charge extra for kissing, msog and/or daty? What is defined as an extra? No I don't think it is okay to charge extra- If I see that there is additional charges for above quoted I would not go. I rather know ahead of time the entire MENU service included in the price.:mrgreen: Makes it a lot easier going to the ATM before hand. :sm185: You would kind of look/feel stupid saying Oh yeah "You want DATY so that is another 40, you want to kiss me so that is another 20" :lol: Meanwhile you are counting out the bills, after giving her in a envelope "the donation required":confused: Much easier to state that my rates are $$$ for these services :jackoff::69::motion::bddog::bjs: Additional Comments: If you are advertising that extras are more it will not help your cause, again just my take on it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickoshadows 937 Report post Posted April 13, 2010 Let's make a deal; You don't upsell me, and I won't start negotiating your price. Nuff said. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mutau 2516 Report post Posted April 13, 2010 Quite an interesting thread! Whenever I am reviewing an SP's CERB profile or her web site, it is to determine the type of services that are provided and what she is comfortable or uncomfortable doing. I fully understand the need for the ladies to have different rates for incall on their home turf or an incall when thay are on the road and have to incur travel, accommodation, meals and other business expenses. We certainly do not want the ladies to be out of pocket! I much prefer the one price, all inclusive approach. I can only imagine that there would be nothing more frustrating than to be well into a hot session and making whoopee when you hear the ka-ching within your partner's voice when she sexily murmurs: if you want to do that dear there is an extra charge. Talk about a mood altering scenario!! As long as I know what the lady prefers (or what is not acceptable) and what the rate is before making a booking, then I have no problems. It is when things change in mid-stream (so to speak) that the frustration sets in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A***** A***** 510 Report post Posted April 13, 2010 Ladies charge for what ever they want, men make the choice to see them or not, makes it pretty simple, and I respect the fact that hey, some understand why we charge extra for bbbj and some don't! There is no way (in my books) that you are going to get a porno style bbbj for the price of a covered bj, just ain't going to happen. The more elaborate the service, the more you pay.:exagerefesses: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newton 714 Report post Posted April 13, 2010 You've one list of services you're comfortable with and one price. Then you say the price is for time only and the services are YMMV. You're in total control in what you'll or will not do in any given session. The clients will respect that. At least that's my view. ;););) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ou**or**n Report post Posted April 13, 2010 For those SP's who charge extra for bbbj, it has nothing to do with the amount of work involved. There is no way (in my books) that you are going to get a porno style bbbj for the price of a covered bj, just ain't going to happen. The more elaborate the service, the more you pay.: Two seemingly conflicting takes on the issue. Both are completely right to approach their business in whatever manner they are comfortable with. To me the issue is being upfront and knowing in advance what is included and what isn't. Once I saw a lady and a certain service was part of the session. Next time I saw her it was an extra. It was also the last time I saw her. She seems to have faded from the business. I personally won't see a lady that charges for 'extras'. If I encountered one that didn't advise in advance then I'd be very upset. I only visit a lady with a specific amount of cash on hand and sudden extras are not easily accommodated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Selena_20 333 Report post Posted April 13, 2010 I agree. The extra's is not kewl and I don't care what anybody says, it's dishonest and not a good way to do business. Thanks all for responding. This is a sensitive issue and i knew i would get good response. Thank you all!!!:butt: lol 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cat 262460 Report post Posted April 14, 2010 yeah but you take the risk or not. I respect that decision, but I don't respect charging more. So let me get this straight...I should not charge more if I am risking being exposed to STDs that are incurable? I'm sorry but that's nonsense! A woman who contracts herpes from a bbbj has it for life and I think she should be able to charge more for taking that risk. Excuse my language coming but what if it were you or your sister or your mother that were sucking a half a dozen dicks a day? Would you want to run the risk of contracting herpes without being compensated what you felt it was worth? Please, think about it from our point of view. We have value and respecting our own boundaries is an integral part of remaining whole. As for menus, it is up to the provider. If an hourly fee is low then its probably a good idea to inquire if its all inclusive and if it is, be full of care. Menus are how a lot of agency girls make their $$$. It's a different style of service, and caters to those on a budget who want a very specific experience. It all depends on what you are looking for. Menus are about the provider being comfortable with what she ends up with at the end of the work day for the work she has done. Honestly, at the end of most days, most SPs know they sold a little part of their soul for the cash in their purse. The key is knowing you got a fair price for it. I have had menus in the past and they worked for the market I was in. I wouldn't go back to a menu today because every appointment is on my terms, I don't have to put up with the nonsense the younger girls have to. A menu is sometimes a good way to keep your heart from getting bruised when you are learning to separate your self from the work. In most markets there is room for a menu style service as long as it is advertised as such. It may not appeal to all but it has its place. cat 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hunknhot 1067 Report post Posted April 14, 2010 Well... .... I find upselling a HUGE chemistry killer... ... that being said.... "reminders" are not. If the rates and services are agreed upon in advance and a gentleman tries to get option B for the price of option A in the heat of the moment thinking you have forgotton that option B was a different price... well.. that's not upselling... thats a "reminder" reminders may affect chemistry but some men need reminders I'm sure. I know, I know, it's not that black and white because YMMV plays a huge role on any menu. I think it's best to go with whatever the agreement was before the session, YMMV permitted. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c****s m********a 123 Report post Posted April 14, 2010 (edited) I myself dont go for SP that offer extra , so I dont go for extra. Being maried I dont go for bbbj. Once on a trip to Toronto I call for a sp that offer gfe service but dfk was not on the menu (found that after her arrival) I ask her to leave, be upfront about services is the best way my 2$ lol Edited April 14, 2010 by c****s m********a wrong word Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites