david_dane 110 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 I met today a very nice lady that is independent. She is new. She told me that there is an agency (I am not going to mention the name), that came over and was threatening her to join or they would harm her! To be honest, that is not the first time I hear of this about this agency, but I felt sorry for this lady and I wanted to see if anyone knows about this! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
etasman2000 15994 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 I have not heard of this. However anyone threatening another person into prostitution is called a pimp and pimping is illegal under the Criminal Code. Heck, threatening someone with intent to cause harm is a criminal offense. All cause for this lady to report it to the authorities. I met today a very nice lady that is independent. She is new. She told me that there is an agency (I am not going to mention the name), that came over and was threatening her to join or they would harm her! To be honest, that is not the first time I hear of this about this agency, but I felt sorry for this lady and I wanted to see if anyone knows about this! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capital Hunter 18263 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 This is horrible. Yes I fully agree. The lady should report the threat to the law enforcement authorities immediately and put away this pimp for a long time to save herself from possible harm and also likely many other future victims from this criminal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverado17 12689 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 that is bad and i agree she should report it and maybe get a pimp off the street that would be one less around that other's would have to worry about Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rileydaniels 1901 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 This is disgusting, but this does not surpsie me because when I was working with the agencies in the start of my career they gave me a bunch of problems. its hard in this business when something like this happens because we are unsure how to handle it. the only thing I can suggest would be to call Wendy Lever from sex crimes even though it's for Toronto they might have connections in other cities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E.D. man 691 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 I met today a very nice lady that is independent. She is new. She told me that there is an agency (I am not going to mention the name), that came over and was threatening her to join or they would harm her! To be honest, that is not the first time I hear of this about this agency, but I felt sorry for this lady and I wanted to see if anyone knows about this! I would like to know the Agency and boycott this agency if it is true!!! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EmilyRushton 253377 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 This is wrong on so many levels. The lady needs to contact the Sex Crimes unit or similar for help to deal with this, Wendy Leaver in Toronto is great and as Riley said, she may know who to contact in Ottawa. No one deserves to have this happen to them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TracieGold 282 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 not only for the safety of the lady already threatened (we are not reading here about a misdemeanor, rather about a serious offense) but also for the knowledge of the gentlemen in this forum to know what kind of people is in that Escorts Agency and boycott them....as well as for all the ladies who may be considering joining an Agency in this bad economic times.... Please provide the name. If this is a solid case,(which I assume it is, otherwise you wouldn't have started this thread without making yourself 100 percent sure of the authenticity) you wont be accused of libeling the agency in question, on the contrary it will be a great advice and warning for all of us and many more. What this lady needs to do is to get a lawyer and start a file for undue influence! Tracie G. :confused: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pink Kitty Escorts 6195 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 I think that alot of new escorts out here come into the business and are naive.. She has rights, and she canand should report these guys to the police. Its things like this that give good agencies a bad name. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meg O'Ryan 266444 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 This is quite simply appauling! This agency needs to be exposed post haste! This poor woman needs our support and should also seek that of the authorities immediately. There is absolutely no need for this type of harrassment to go un-punished. Are we back in the stone ages again? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sentimental 281 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 A "black list" of disreputable agencies should be posted on CERB in the same manner as the section for SPs & MPs devoted to problem cases with clients. This should act as a deterant for anyone trying to force independent SPs to join an agency. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jg24 3708 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 If this lady is on Cerb she should at least give Mod the name and circunstances of what happened Mod will make a decision if this Agency is on Cerb how to deal with them as he did in the pictures on a site issue sorry name eludes me I would agree we should know who the Agency is but let Mod decide if it should be posted on the site as we dont want Cerb put in a compromising position This happens I have heard similar story recently but it should be reported we dont need this garbage around here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pink Kitty Escorts 6195 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 I am sure everything thats being said here is on the up and up.. However, the only issue about all of this is its validity.. Thing about this one for a second.. Its also a way to slander an agency, or to knock a competitor out of business.. This industry is extremely competitive and even we get crappy things said about us all the time.. Its BS but its something we have to be sure is correct before we ever point fingers. That all said, if its true than it needs to be out there for sure.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jg24 3708 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 I am sure everything thats being said here is on the up and up.. However, the only issue about all of this is its validity.. Thing about this one for a second.. Its also a way to slander an agency, or to knock a competitor out of business.. This industry is extremely competitive and even we get crappy things said about us all the time.. Its BS but its something we have to be sure is correct before we ever point fingers. That all said, if its true than it needs to be out there for sure.. Now you have lost me you say you are sure it is on the up and up then question its validity and its a way to slander well hopefully the lady will contact Mod or police and who ever it is gets what they deserve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Megan'sTouch 23875 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 It makes no sense for an agency to randomly target one independent. I'm not questioning the validity of what happened, but there has got to be more to this story. Did she used to work for them? Are other women being targetted? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capital Hunter 18263 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 It makes no sense for an agency to randomly target one independent. I'm not questioning the validity of what happened' date=' but there has got to be more to this story. Did she used to work for them? Are other women being targetted?[/quote'] Yes there is likely more to it. I heard of one case (the visiting lady told me) that the agency threatened the young girl who used to work for them to go back working for agency or else. So likely it is the same here (not sure if same agency). I boycotted the agency two years ago, but it was a hearsay and I had no proof to post anything about it (That agency also was/is guilty as hell for B & S on CL and not known on cerb). On another point, the original poster of this thread is not running an agency (in fact he has reviewed quite a few ladies and has been a member since 2007 here on cerb), and the lady is an independent, so I can't undertand how he can be a competitor trying to knock out another competitor out of business??. hopefully the lady will contact Mod or police and who ever it is gets what they deserve I do agree with everyone that we need to know who the agency is and I also do hope that the lady would report this incident to LE authorities for her safety and for the sake of justice and more importantly to put them away so that there will be no more victims like her at any future date. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meg O'Ryan 266444 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 Quick point....yes it is competitive but there are enough hobbiests to go around and under handed, sneaky, pressure tactics are totally unnecessary. Afterall...you catch more flies with honey! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PistolPete 61421 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 another party if I might say. Megan is correct "there is more to this story" I'm not questioning the validity of what happen as well but to ensure safety lets make sure we get all facts first. Jason from PK is also correct in stating that "Its also a way to slander an agency, or to knock a competitor out of business.. This industry is extremely competitive and even we get crappy things said about us all the time.. Its BS but its something we have to be sure is correct before we ever point fingers." Over the years I learned to understand that the biz, is a real cut throat business, may it be for an agency or an Indy. It is known fact that some agencies actually book another agency ladies. The lady and agency never have a real booked appointment but a hoax. Here is a link discussing that very issue just flip to page 3, MOD gave his input to this matter as well. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=4737&highlight=THROAT+BUSINESS Before I say anything further, I like to always deal with specifics. And at this time it would be best for her to step forward so everyone gets the straight story. It makes no sense for an agency to randomly target one independent. I'm not questioning the validity of what happened' date=' but there has got to be more to this story. Did she used to work for them? Are other women being targetted?[/quote'] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david_dane 110 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 Thank you everyone for your interest in this topic. I think I should provide you with more information in order for you to understand the situation. The lady is new to the business. She is not on CERB, but on CL. The agency scheduled a call with her and the owner with another guy showed up at her location and told her that she needs to join thier agency. If she does not, then they would flag her posts. They would send people to harm her,... etc.. She does not know what to do. She is new to this and started doing it in need of money! I am only bringing this up not to get this agency out of the competition, but to educate mainly the people out there of what is happening. This is a known agency! Thank you for your support. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
v*****m*n 220 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 Thank you everyone for your interest in this topic. I think I should provide you with more information in order for you to understand the situation. The lady is new to the business. She is not on CERB, but on CL. The agency scheduled a call with her and the owner with another guy showed up at her location and told her that she needs to join thier agency. If she does not, then they would flag her posts. They would send people to harm her,... etc.. She does not know what to do. She is new to this and started doing it in need of money! I am only bringing this up not to get this agency out of the competition, but to educate mainly the people out there of what is happening. This is a known agency! Thank you for your support. Maybe you should get her to join here and also ask her if the agency in question is a member here and if so then she can advise the Mod of her dealings. Unless she post something in the provider section then this thread is useless i think. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meg O'Ryan 266444 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 First of all....tell her to join Cerb and ditch CL for the time being. Second of all, she needs to seek out a "mentor". There are some lovely ladies on Cerb who have experience and would impart their wisdom for the sake of her safety. No one should ever be put in this type of situation and there are ways to ensure that it does not happen! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david_dane 110 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 I have asked her to join here and hopefully she will take the advice. As for the agency, yes it is on here. It is a very active one on here. Sadly!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pink Kitty Escorts 6195 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 My point was simply I agree that this agency should be outed if they are for sure guilty of extortion. I know this is something that is (unfortunately) common in the industry and there are a few ppl out there trying to extort ladies. We have had it even happen to us. But to put it into perspective I would be mad as hell if someone were to say something like that about my agency as it would a completely slanderous allegation. But its something a slimy competitor could do. We are attacked constantly on CL and slandered and flagged many many times a day and its from competition. (I have been informed by a few ppl who knew about it first hand). So that is the state of affairs in the industry right now.. So its a bit of a slippery slope when you go down that road. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
v*****m*n 220 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 My point was simply I agree that this agency should be outed if they are for sure guilty of extortion. I know this is something that is (unfortunately) common in the industry and there are a few ppl out there trying to extort ladies. We have had it even happen to us. But to put it into perspective I would be mad as hell if someone were to say something like that about my agency as it would a completely slanderous allegation. But its something a slimy competitor could do. We are attacked constantly on CL and slandered and flagged many many times a day and its from competition. (I have been informed by a few ppl who knew about it first hand). So that is the state of affairs in the industry right now.. So its a bit of a slippery slope when you go down that road. why would PK be attack when you say your just advertise and take the booking for the ladies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capital Hunter 18263 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 Well to me, if true, they are guilty of threatening a young girl's life in order to force her into prostitution. It is a much more serious crime than extortion!!!. It is even more disturbing that the agency is on cerb. I still believe that the agency should be exposed but only after solid evidence is provided that the comments are 100% true and for that to happen, the victim should come forward. The original poster's comment is a hearsay at this stage because the OP was not present when the incident occurred (I am not questioning the validity of his post, I am just saying that solid proof is needed before the agency is named due to the seriousness of the incident and believe me I am no friend to that agency but what is right is right). I feel very bad and my heart goes out to the young lady. The poor girl is likely scared to death as she is young and new likely with no mentor. I hope that she joins cerb soon and benefit from the wisdom of lovely ladies on cerb as what to do about her unfortunate situation. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites