TracieGold 282 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 CLOSING THREADS TO PROTECT AN AGENCY......I HAVE BEEN IN A FIGHT FOR THE LAST 2 OURS TO PROTECT CLIENTS AND SP'S...I NEED YOUR SUPPORT IF I GET CUT OFF MOD SEEMS TO BE PROTECTING AN AGENCY OVER ALL OF THE CLIENTS AND SP'S...I WONT TAKE THAT AS AN ANSWER AND AM READY TO TAKE EVERYONE TO COURT....... TRACIE G. YOU KNOW HOW TO REACH ME [email protected] let's fight this shit........................clients and providers.l...please stop the submissiveness show your true colors................... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 Whoah, Tracie, please slow down here. First of all, we are getting second hand news - the girl in question did not actually post and reveal who the agency was, we are hearing it from some guy who said he was told this. First of all how do we know this is reliable information. Remember, I got slapped terribly for "outing" an SP who I heard from 2 of my reliable clients that she had children in her apt. Because I did not actually witness it, I was shut down and perhaps rightfully so. The MOD and others on here have no way of knowing my clients are reliable so I had to accept that. This is the same thing. We have no way of actually knowing this was Pink Kitty. Why, because Dave said that some girl said so. I do not think that is enough. I can understand your frustration, but that thread was getting way out of hand and nasty and I do not blame the MOD for deleting it. I am not a big fan of agencies but really I am not defending Jason per se - I am defending the process by which we post credible information on here. Love you girl! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TracieGold 282 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 mod SUPPOSES to protect our clients and us....he is protecting Jason right now...there is no inquiry about the allegations of Madison..... MOD is just judging without a juror... I am really pissed off at this.... I had emails from many and all of them want to know what in heavens is Mod doing at keeping Jason and isa agency on board... Angela I have one face,k never 2 Love you Tracie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 I must have missed something. So did the girl come forward then. I was under the impression it was just hearsay when the thread was cut. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustJack 4689 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 ...I WONT TAKE THAT AS AN ANSWER AND AM READY TO TAKE EVERYONE TO COURT.......TRACIE G. YOU KNOW HOW TO REACH ME [email protected] let's fight this shit........................clients and providers.l...please stop the submissiveness show your true colors................... IMO, relax. This is MOD"s forum, his sandbox, his rules. I guess because you have only been a member since October you don't understand that. I have no idea what you are talking about, but one thing is for sure, you don't take someone to court over stuff on CERB..... I wouldn't get to upset about anything that goes on here. Over time, the Mod(s) have shown fariness (maybe not much patience thou at times, understandably so I suppose, lol). You'll be banned for sure if you don't conduct yourself in an appropriate manner...... Just relax and concentrate on something that is more important, like world peace or how to make breast enhancements cheaper and more lifelike. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richardsampsonxo 674 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 To the best of my knowledge, what the mod is preventing against conjecture. If there are people slandering anyone (agency, girl, client) personally, that person has a right to press charges if the claim is inaccurate. If this ever went to court the mod would be forced to say why he didn't stop it or could also be charged. It isn't a question about protecting an agency, but stopping a potential legal situation. Why isn't this a review board and why we can't post negative things? Because if we say something that is negative against someone that hinders someones lawful business we can be held accountable. That is the same thing that is going on here. If this is real, the girl should go to the police, plain and simple. Posted via Mobile Device Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 Just relax and concentrate on something that is more important, like world peace or how to make break enhancements cheaper and more lifelike. I find this comment very condescending. Even if you don't agree with Tracie's sentiments, it doesn't mean that what she believes is any less important than other things like "world peace". 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cat 262460 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 To the best of my knowledge, what the mod is preventing against conjecture. If there are people slandering anyone (agency, girl, client) personally, that person has a right to press charges if the claim is inaccurate. If this ever went to court the mod would be forced to say why he didn't stop it or could also be charged. It isn't a question about protecting an agency, but stopping a potential legal situation. Why isn't this a review board and why we can't post negative things? Because if we say something that is negative against someone that hinders someones lawful business we can be held accountable. That is the same thing that is going on here. If this is real, the girl should go to the police, plain and simple.Posted via Mobile Device I agree with wnrsntzl, if this is true the lady directly involved needs to go to the police. Then the behavior in question could be looked at by someone with the authority to do something about it. It can't be rectified on CERB or by CERB and it's members. I trust MOD, he knows what he's doing. cat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustJack 4689 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 I find this comment very condescending. Even if you don't agree with Tracie's sentiments, it doesn't mean that what she believes is any less important than other things like "world peace". Not meant to be "condescending". CERB forums just are not the place for fights and arguements...... Its not just my opinion, its the MODO of the board, see top of page which reads, "CERB a positive and friendly environment.... If you do not have anything nice to say, please say nothing at all." I think the MOD simply deletes anything and everything of a negative nature, period. I few years ago I got all worked up a couple times about stuff on a forum (not this one), but soon realized it wasn't worth it. The OP, may have a valid disturbing situation, I have no idea, but hashing it out on CERB forums just isn't within the rules of CERB, atleast as I understand them. Just my opinions.... and it really isn't any of my business, but I was trying to be helpful and if my attempt at "turning down the temperature" was not accepted in the spirit it was originally intended then sorry about that.... Night all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 Not meant to be "condescending". CERB forums just are not the place for fights and arguements...... Its not just my opinion, its the MODO of the board, see top of page which reads, "CERB a positive and friendly environment.... If you do not have anything nice to say, please say nothing at all." I think the MOD simply deletes anything and everything of a negative nature, period. I few years ago I got all worked up a couple times about stuff on a forum (not this one), but soon realized it wasn't worth it. The OP, may have a valid disturbing situation, I have no idea, but hashing it out on CERB forums just isn't within the rules of CERB, atleast as I understand them. Just my opinions.... and it really isn't any of my business, but I was trying to be helpful and if my attempt at "turning down the temperature" was not accepted in the spirit it was originally intended then sorry about that.... Night all. I didn't disagree with you about the MOD's standpoint, but obviously Tracie does see this as worth getting worked up about and I just felt you were kind of fluffing it off, that's all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redmachine 1916 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 Tracie! Mod is not protecting the agency. He is protecting all 3,670 active members of this board. We are all open to these type of accusations and it is all to easy to slander someone. I know your heart is in the right place but you need to take a step back from this. All the best 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cato 160314 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 I don't know what the situation being referred to here is, either, but would just ask people to remain as calm as possible, and mutually respectful. I gather that some serious allegations have been made, but we can't adjudicate them here. Please let's keep the positive atmosphere on cerb that we all cherish. Legal battles are to be fought in the right places, but not on cerb. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PistolPete 61421 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 Yes a BIG step back, and you really never should put a name out there, because there was not one before hand. Now it just snowballs into another thread closed. Cat said it best on this thread, and someone else did on the other, let the authorities take care of the issue. Now everyone a deep breath, take a break from this. I know everyone is concerned for her. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ottanon 2930 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 Seems to me there is a private SP section this can all be moved to and not have to involve us clients. Although if there is something underhanded going on for sure, I would like to be made aware of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TracieGold 282 Report post Posted April 16, 2010 We are talking about a woman who was threatened.. her name is Madison....by an agency and MOD is protecting the agency....he does not want to hear reasons and is protecting someone who some day is going to go against you.. clients and SP)'s.....this is an agency who had problems before and we all in conjunction allow them to come back if they behaved.......they are not I am goi ng to pursue this until I am sure all the ladies in this board are safe and all the clients are 100 percent sure where they are going when they get an appointment. I am not sucking the ass of anyone.....I do not have to. do you?Please stand straight and think how it was when you started and some one ass came to force you....PLEASEEEEEEE DO NOT be complacent.... think about this girl Madison and her being forced to join an agency,,,,,, MOD dut off the account of Dave_dane for making tis oublic without letting anyone know.... I sent im a mail asking this question and I had no answer...may be a thread tomorrow to cut me off???????????????? I will endure that MOD, but would you what will come to you after????????////// I am not sure. Tracie gold Please, some of you know me already because I fought for you here or there, but for the ones wo do not know, I am always available at [email protected] and...........I am ready to start a NEW CERB without discriminating and favoritism,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, my mod will be Pistol Pete...I love his attitude and good heart!. Additional Comments: We are talking about a woman who was threatened.. her name is Madison....by an agency and MOD is protecting the agency....he does not want to hear reasons and is protecting someone who some day is going to go against you.. clients and SP)'s.....this is an agency who had problems before and we all in conjunction allow them to come back if they behaved.......they are not I am goi ng to pursue this until I am sure all the ladies in this board are safe and all the clients are 100 percent sure where they are going when they get an appointment. I am not sucking the ass of anyone.....I do not have to. do you?Please stand straight and think how it was when you started and some one ass came to force you....PLEASEEEEEEE DO NOT be complacent.... think about this girl Madison and her being forced to join an agency,,,,,, MOD dut off the account of Dave_dane for making tis oublic without letting anyone know.... I sent im a mail asking this question and I had no answer...may be a thread tomorrow to cut me off???????????????? I will endure that MOD, but would you what will come to you after????????////// I am not sure. Tracie gold Please, some of you know me already because I fought for you here or there, but for the ones wo do not know, I am always available at [email protected] and...........I am ready to start a NEW CERB without discriminating and favoritism,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, my mod will be Pistol Pete...I love his attitude and good heart!. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fortunateone 156618 Report post Posted April 17, 2010 I know I did not see the first thread on this matter, but I do know that a thread like this one that refers to something many readers are not going to know about, that makes some accusations without saying why or explanation and in ALL caps does not generate sympathy. I also think that we might be dealing with a couple of people communicating in English where English is not first language and that it is extremely easy to misunderstand or get offended by something where no offense was intended. I am not saying that this is the case here, but I simply have a hard time understanding why an indy sp would feel like anyone could possibly force them to work for an agency if they did not choose to do so. How are they planning to make her work for them., exactly? Hold a family member hostage? Lock her in a room, and book all her appts for her then escort the client to this locked room? Call up all her appts and cancel them before she meets them? But the sp in question is the one who needs to tell her own story, and perhaps the readers can judge for themselves. Or the two involved, the sp and the agency, can present what they believe happened. I think the OP has good intentions, but now that she has posted what she believes to be true, maybe just allow some time. I would hope that no one would take one person's word as "proof" of wrong doing, without investigation or input from others, before casting out any members just on the say so of someone who is not even the injured party. I think that the OP would agree that if anyone accused her of wrongdoing, she would expect that she would have more than a couple of hours to address the accusation, and not allow her own good name to be muddied up by someone's posts. I think that in the interest of fairness, that mod is obliged to offer any member some time to work things out, if possible. :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TracieGold 282 Report post Posted April 17, 2010 I can tell you lots of stories of when I survived a war... but the best and most simple way to say is: TALK ABOUT IT I am appalled at the fact that some of the big shots in this CERB are not showing up here...they are just a play off or what...where are you guys? tis is about a woman who has been threatened by an agency!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I may be banned tomorrow or right after I write this last post...the MOD has the control up to NOW. If the originator of this Dave_dane, was sus[-ended with no notice to anyone....WOOOOOOOOOOOOW why was that??????????? I want to understand this and I WONT STOP.......... why ladies have to go torugh this shit???????????????/ why Madison has to go through this? why dave has to have his account suspended? PLEASE IF YOU ARE GOING TO SUSPEND ME TO FOR REFERRING TO THIS ...LET MY LOVERS KNOW....AND F YOU ALL THE WAY TO HELL SOMETHING IS WRONG HERE WE ALLOWED JASON TO BE ON BOARD AND WE ARE ASKING NOW FOR HIM TO BE OFF...CAN YOU DO THAT OR IT COSTS TOO MUCH? I8 HAVE A GREAT LAWYER,, AND I AM NOT AFRAID OF ANY OF YOU T THE MOD'S PLACE.....P-LEASE EXPLAIN WHY IN HEAVENS IS JASON ON CERB?? THAnks Tracie G. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hunknhot 1067 Report post Posted April 17, 2010 Hi Tracie, Many of us agree if not all that if Madison is in danger she needs to contact the proper authorities and protect herself immediately. I respect your passion, devotion and strength. There is no question you have those qualities. As for me, as I don't want to speak for others. I come here to exchange good thoughts, ideas, experiences and learn new things. I understand that this place for exchanging those. When it come to the negative aspects, as apalling as some of them are I don't believe this is the venue or the purpose of this this place. Courtrooms and law enforcement should are best equipped to deal with them. They are also best suited to get to the bottom of this situation. The reality is Madsion needs to seek out some help and probably needs to sooner than later. That is the urgent need and I hope she is safe. The authorities will execute a process and those threatening her should be addressed by them. Just my two cents. hnh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c****s m********a 123 Report post Posted April 17, 2010 (edited) I think that the first post got out of hand the mod reply to a pm that I have send im, and till page 4 there was no agency mentioned but it must have hapenned on page 5. I beleve this is not the place to solved the He sais she said, there are court for that. If some sp would accuse me of wrong doing I would like the mod to ask me first before my name being said on this bord. I hope the poeple from west can read my franglais Edited April 17, 2010 by c****s m********a grammar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newton 714 Report post Posted April 17, 2010 Although I've been on cerb not long, I've seen MOD handling a couple of previous events. Simply put, I trust MOD's judgement. In my view, we don't know the facts and CERB is not the right place to accertain the facts. The girl - if she exists - should report to the police. The reason Canada has liberal prostitution law is to encourage victims to come forward without fear being charged themselves. The police should be reported to if a crime is committed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winnipegcub 21293 Report post Posted April 17, 2010 Very well said hunknhot. Tracie we feel and admire your dedication but CERB is not the place nor purpose to deal with the seriousness of the accusation. As has been said we have other authorities that should be involved. If any agency is treating their ladies with ongoing dis-respect that will come through to the clients and that business won't be around for long. Happy ladies makes happy clients. Please consider this and the comments of others who care. Hi Tracie, Many of us agree if not all that if Madison is in danger she needs to contact the proper authorities and protect herself immediately. I respect your passion, devotion and strength. There is no question you have those qualities. As for me, as I don't want to speak for others. I come here to exchange good thoughts, ideas, experiences and learn new things. I understand that this place for exchanging those. When it come to the negative aspects, as apalling as some of them are I don't believe this is the venue or the purpose of this this place. Courtrooms and law enforcement should are best equipped to deal with them. They are also best suited to get to the bottom of this situation. The reality is Madsion needs to seek out some help and probably needs to sooner than later. That is the urgent need and I hope she is safe. The authorities will execute a process and those threatening her should be addressed by them. Just my two cents. hnh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ottanon 2930 Report post Posted April 17, 2010 actually, if a person wanted to be nasty they could do lots of things like - Contact the landlord and let them know whats going on there -make lots of appointments and cancel or no show -call child welfare I can think of lots. Like many have mentioned here, cerb is not the place for this. Take this to the private SP section and the person involved should seek immediate help if necessary. Tracie, we are not saying that we are not willing to help, but cerb has been setup to be non-confrontational for both sides.. If these things are done by anyone then asa group we should run them out of town, but only with absolute proof. Not with hearsay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PistolPete 61421 Report post Posted April 17, 2010 Update 1- Pete does not want be a MOD thanks, (I have a hard enough time keeping up with messages and my User Cp LOL) Update 2- Sens and Pens are tied after 2 periods, everyone go have a beer and lets chill. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c****s m********a 123 Report post Posted April 17, 2010 well said peter and go habs go oups that is not merc loll Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites