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[Julie By Night 131]

Hey all! :smile:

 

Just needed to get something off my chest here! :boobies:

 

I have been receiving lots of phone calls and messages from people who have been asking things like "What services do you provide?" "What are your rates?" "Do you do in-calls?", etc...:confused:

 

Please people...I'm begging you.... :???: please take the time to read the info you find before contacting someone...

 

I get contacts that I know can only find me online because I don't advertise anywhere else, and then they begin bombarding me with a ton of questions that I know they can find the answers to right in front of them. :idea:

 

I have had two hang-ups even, because I start to tell these folks to look at my site for the info, because I prefer to not talk too much business over the phone...guess a girl with a brain intimidates some people lol! :lol:

 

I do understand that CERB has limited information on profiles...but bless them for giving us this place to be able to talk about things like this and keep some decorum in the profession! But I do have links to my website all over the place and it is easy to find. I really would like it if you could look over more then just the photos and then call or message me.

 

If there is something you would like to know about me that isn't posted on the site , by all means go ahead and ask! I don't bite...unless asked! :-D But almost everything you would need to make a well informed decision is there for you to see, and then the finer details can be worked out when contact is made.

 

Don't get me wrong...I enjoy the conversations I have with the people who contact me. :motion: But I would rather spend the time talking about other things that would make the meeting we have even better.

 

So, anyway, that's pretty much all I have to say about that! :-P Any feedback is appreciated as well!

 

Thanks all! :eek:

 

Julie

[VictoriaJolie 64127]

I agree with you...Some of us did put a lot of energy in a informative website and while it may be only one question from a guy...making by X20 it is a lot of time consuming repeating the same thing and where the info is already on website.You may be happily surprise to find out thing on that website about the provider that you didnt know.So please help us helping you..Click on the link:razz:8-)

[Guest Ou**or**n]

I agree completely with you ladies as I am one of those compulsive 'read the entire website' types. However there is a very wide variety of people in the world and a certain number are simply more oriented to verbal communication than reading.

 

This is in no way isolated to this business. In my professional life I have found similar people in all areas. I used to bang my head against the wall after writing my boss an in-depth 5 paragraph email only to get a quick response with a one-line question that I had in fact answered in the 3rd paragraph of the email! After that I discovered a pattern and made it a point to understand how much each of my co-workers or bosses was oriented to long written communications.

 

For those that I learned never got past my first sentence I just learned that I needed to change how I communicated with them. When I had something important to say I would call them or physically go and see them. It wasn't any issue with their intelligence it was just they gathered and processed information differently.

 

I know discussing some of the topics of this business in-depth on the phone is not very fun. First some people are concerned about legal issues although a phone is private so there is no violation of the public solicitation laws. For others a discussion takes away the GFE illusion and makes it a crude business transaction (that's how I feel anyway).

 

In the end I suggest you find a mental balance between recognizing that some people are just not going to read your website and deciding how much you want to discuss by phone. You have to see your website as just one of many ways you interact with potential clients and that the phone is also an important one.

[Guest s******ecan****]

This is in no way isolated to this business. In my professional life I have found similar people in all areas. I used to bang my head against the wall after writing my boss an in-depth 5 paragraph email only to get a quick response with a one-line question that I had in fact answered in the 3rd paragraph of the email! After that I discovered a pattern and made it a point to understand how much each of my co-workers or bosses was oriented to long written communications.

 

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Boy can I relate to this. Even though I don't have a boss I communicate by email constantly. Today I sent an email with 5 important questions, all requiring answers today.

 

What do I get back an hour later....a one word answer to the whole email... "Nope"

 

WTF am I supposed to do with that?! I honestly don't understand some people.

[chavez 641]

Hi Julie,

I think that you don't understand what is happening here. The potential client is listening to you ; I mean really listening to you. Often not so much what you are saying but but what you are telling them with the way you are saying it.

Hell anyone can write an ad. I could write your ad; but only you can tell me about you.

When I contact a lady I alway want to talk. My decission is never made until we talk, it doesn't matter what her picture looks like or her list of service. It is alway the conversation that sells her so don't undersell yourself. Take a few minutes to talk. Remember it is often not the facts but the story that sells the book.

Happy selling

[mod 135640]

NOTE: I was writing this while Shavez posted the above post...

Ladies: Bluntly put... A lot of guys call you to see what you voice sounds like, to get a feel for what your personality is like over the phone, to see how professional you conduct yourself, to see if your sweet or rude/cold. etc... they probably read your ad and know the answers they are asking, chances are they just want to "Feel you out" to see if you sound nice!!

 

If your site answers all his questions it may leave very little to ask you over the phone... but the phone call to some of the guys is very important.

 

I am sure most of them DID read your info and site (Sure some don't and those guys are really just idiots and jerks) but many of the guys just want to feel you out a little to see if you sound as sexy as you look to them in the photos.

 

It could also be a first timer who is nervous... MANY reasons exist for this to happen - bait and switch ads on CL is a perfect example... many of the guys are probably SICK of being lied to and they no longer trust the crap info on the ads - they are going to ask everyone questions to see if they slip up too... if you advertise on places where you know they have a lot of BAD advertisers you can expect this MORE!! (CL).

 

The smarter business women know to be kind, polite, flirty, sexy and use this opportunity to "real in the catch" when someone calls them asking questions - Sorry for the phrase but it's true... you got a fish on the hook are you going to let him go easily or reel him in and land the catch!! This is your time to shine and seam the deal!

 

Some companies pay MILLIONS of dollars a year to get consumers to call them and ask questions about products. All the info could be online but companies know that it's a lot easier to sell on the phone or in person (especially with a good sales person on the phone).

 

... I am not saying you should chat with the guys for hours but a few minutes to land the deal is not a bad thing and unless you are a playboy playmate (or similar) and can get tons of bookings off your photos along you do need to include personality in the mix to land the deal... and it's part of a successful business. If you have the model looks and the personality to boot - look out as your going to be very busy but than again if you don't have the centerfold looks but are a sweetheart and can make the guy feel like a million bucks your going to be very popular with lots of regular clients!

 

If you tell a guy who calls to hear your voice to go to your website instead of talking on the phone with him your pretty much saying "stop wasting my time" (We all know a lot of ladies do this) and I don't blame anyone for hanging up on a person who does this. If I call a company for information and they don't want to answer my questions over the phone... Screw'em! I am going to someone who does offer a more personal service and will take the time to answer my questions.

 

For the ladies who do this and wonder why the other ladies get more appointments and a lot more recommendations it's because your pretty much telling them to go find someone else. I get complaints ALL THE TIME about ladies who are rude to the guys (The guys feel they need to tell me about this all the time in PM's and my reply to them is - good indication to find someone else who is not rude or bitchy to you right?)

 

Some guys (Not all) but some NEED this first phone call to entice them enough to book time with you.

 

I understand you may be busy at the time the phone rings but for heavens sake be nice to the guy, don't answer the phone when you can't talk in quiet and openly, have a sexy intriguing voice message so to add to his fantasy and make sure he comes back... your not selling just sex (especially those who do GFE) your selling a whole package (Sex appeal, lust, eroticism, fantasy, etc)

 

If you do answer the phone and don't have time to answer the questions make sure you leave him wanting more and wanting to call you back. Say I am sorry I would love to talk but I can not right now can you call me back in 20 minutes and I will make some time for you to answer any questions you have... if you sweet and sexy he is going to call back and if you are polite and intriguing on the phone you will probably land the call.

 

It surprises me how some ladies answer their business phone. Sometimes you hear screaming kids, sometimes you here people in the background yelling, some ladies answer the phone sounding like you just woke them up, some sound like they just smoked 50 cigarettes, loud music in the background, and worst of all some ladies (and agencies) are FAR from polite... Still after all these years BLOWS MY MIND but this happens to our staff all the time.

 

On the flip side... You have the ones who answer the phone very sweet, they are super kind and inviting... often bubbly, you know they are genuine good hearted soles, those are the ladies who really stand out and I am sure the ones you have the multiple page recommendations on here for as well.

 

The phone call is just part of the experience for many guys.

 

Does she sound sexy? Does she sound sweet? Is she warm or cold/abrupt?

The phone call is a way for the guy to say "I am interested enough to call you now sell me on your services so I will book an appointment with you". Some of you think that your website or photos and text should be enough (maybe it is for some but many need to hear your voice and feel you out over the phone first).

 

You do need to be able to feel out the time wasters and the non-serious guys but that is just part of the business... everyone gets these guys too.

 

Answer 1 or 2 quick questions than take control of the conversation... steer the conversation with something like "How did you find my number?" and "Do you like my photos?" or even to the point "When would you like to come see me I have some time open tomorrow at noon??" (Be in control but be sexy and intriguing) ... by this time they have heard your voice and your personality and if they continue to ask questions that are on the ad where they found you they may be a time waster or maybe they are shy and nervous still.

 

If you rush them, brush them off, send them away to read your info like you don't have time to answer a few simple questions on the phone... they are going to assume a date with you will go pretty much the same way!! EWE!!!!

 

You have to land the deal at the phone call time and know when they are wasting your time so you can move on if need to. It's not easy, it is the art of seduction.

 

If you think they are dragging out the call it's your last chance to land the deal but let them know if they want more they must book some time with you. Something like "I am sorry but I have an appointment right now and have to run, I would love to see you so how bout you give me a call when your ready to come see me??" If you did the job they will set up an appointment right on the spot at that moment or they may call you back in a few days after they spend some nights fantasizing about how wonderful you SOUND!

 

This phone call is your chance to LAND the DEAL and it is why you spend all the time making ads (and paying for ads on high traffic sites and newspapers). The ads can only go so far... that phone call is often what lands the deal so don't blow it by being rude or cold or having screaming kids or mood killing distractions like screaming people or loud music in the background! EWE!!

Guys... am I wrong? How much of that initial phone calls lands the deal or not for you? How many of you have been turned off of a lady because of how that phone call went?

[Julie By Night 131]

Thanks for all the responses!

 

I think what I said may have been slightly misinterpreted...or at least I didn't word it well...

 

I am always polite and personable when I talk to someone on the phone. I do try and do what you say Mod, and "close the deal" :motion:. I never tell them to "just go and look at my website" and be bitchy and condescending in any way.:ablow:

 

I just prefer to ask more personable questions like "Are you from here?" What kind of experience are you looking for?" "Hasn't the weather been awesome?" "Have any plans for the summer?", etc.:?:

 

But on the other hand, I definitely see where you are coming from Mod :idea:, and others with similar views. It is unreasonable to exepect EVERY person that visits your site to read the whole thing. And I do see how the conversation can be an important part of the experience for some, especially since GFE is my specialty. But that's why the Mod is the Mod...he is wise! :bowdown:

 

So please don't think I am dissing all you people who ask questions...that's why I like to be a part of this community...to hear both sides of the story...that's what makes this a great place to be! :-D

 

Julie

 

PS . Thanks for the nomination! :mrgreen:

[mod 135640]

She is wise?? LOL..

 

I am actually a guy (The one who moderates the site full time under this user name)

 

... We do have a lady on staff who does read the site regularly and can moderate the site if I am not available to (many of you who have ads with escorts-canada have spoken to her on the phone over the years) but I am sorry to say... I am a man.

[Julie By Night 131]

OMG! So sorry! It was an honest mistake! Pardon my ignorance! Well... HE is wise :bowdown:... to correct myself. Doh! :-?

 

Julie

[Suzirider 737]

No need for either of you to apologise.

I read it as a compliment ! :smile:

[BownChickaBown 4829]

In my experience, while websites are informative, I have found they are not always up-to-date or accurate, as I have been burnt several times of late with B&S from what I thought were reputable, professional, 'classy', SPs - only to have them turn out to be nothing but 2-faced liars. They know who they are.

 

Example 1: A couple of SPs touring Canada are advertising videos services for an extra charge only to take ones money and not send the videos. These 2 people have done this multiple times now. One claims they were not ready to provide the service they listed and took money for - like ok, then don't advertise the service and take peoples money then if you do not intend to provide said service. Just a pathetic excuse.

 

It goes to show - it's hard to trust ANYONE in this hobby. :-(

 

So, in the end, I find I am forced to have to do many layers of Due Diligence (which involves calling and confirming things as best I can) in trying to find a Decent, Honest SP out of all the scammers out there (which there are many) - blame the marketplace and the lack of integrity of some people for the extra burden you and others have to deal with as part of the standard fair of this extremely dodgy industry.

 

As well thou - some people just have a voice fetish and like to find SPs whom have a particular charm in the way they speak, or what-have-you. ;-)

 

In the end, generally speaking, men can be very simple at times. Read instructions or ask for directions? Pawww-leeeeezzzzzz :-P

[Carrie Moon 68826]

Great points from both sides.

 

I also like to hear a potential client on the phone before I decide to see him.. so we are using that phone call to assess your demeanor for a visit. Prior to the internet the only thing you had to go on was the phone call.

 

I do understand a client asking questions like general availability or if I provide a certain service, where I"m located... etc etc. But in no way shape of form should he ask my description or rates. I HAVE PHOTOS. The rates are clearly posted. I do answer anyway but I always ask when they ask this question where they got my number if they have to ask that. Not bitchy. Direct.

 

I have been asked if my photos are recent to which I reply.. go to my blog where I update pics almost weekly. http://www.carriemoon.com

 

I've been at this a very long time. It doesn't take very long to realize a guy is just asking questions to be a time waster. Some find it funny for some reason to book an appt and then not show/call.. they immediately go in my phone as such NC/NS and with no phone call to explain why they did this they continue to wonder why I don't answer future phone calls to me.

 

You can't equate this business to several other types of businesses. Do guys phone a furniture store to ask questions only to be jerking off on the other end of the line?

 

Granted if I'm in a mall when I answer my phone.. I immediately tell the person I'm there to explain the noise of children, overhead noise etc.

 

You guys who are direct and normal assume all the other guys are as well. I even hang up on certain people. Rude? hell ya.. but only when warranted. Usually it's the ones who ask for a discount. I just say 'have a nice day'' and hang up on them. They don't normally call back.. some do however.. and no matter how rude you are to them... they keep calling.

 

Again.. would someone call a furniture store. Ask if ''just for me? would you offer me 1/2 price?" and then keep calling back to ask the same when refused? We do deal with a bunch of weird calls I know for a fact other types of businesses do not get.

[Guest s******ecan****]

3 nominated posts in the same thread? This must be a record.

[Carrie Moon 68826]

I have been burnt several times of late with B&S from what I thought were reputable, professional, 'classy', SPs - only to have them turn out to be nothing but 2-faced liars.

Which is why review boards exist. Stop taking one for the team and learn from other's experiences.

 

Example 1: A couple of SPs touring Canada are advertising videos services for an extra charge only to take ones money and not send the videos. These 2 people have done this multiple times now. One claims they were not ready to provide the service they listed and took money for - like ok, then don't advertise the service and take peoples money then if you do not intend to provide said service. Just a pathetic excuse.

 

I have shot what's called content exchange with other porn actors and never received the footage... so I no longer shoot that way unless I also provide my own camera man. It's frustrating for sure but you learn. It's completely normal to live in the moment and once you get home you let other things get in the way. How many people forget to return a library book on time or a video? Film it yourself and then you're sure you have it.

 

It goes to show - it's hard to trust ANYONE in this hobby. :-(

Such is true in any line of work.. not just the hobby.

 

 

As well thou - some people just have a voice fetish and like to find SPs whom have a particular charm in the way they speak, or what-have-you.

 

yeah.. it's called listening to your voice and jerking off on the other end of the line. We don't get paid for that :butt:

[rickoshadows 937]

I have seen the complaint about asking for prices which are clearly stated on the website come up a few times in this thread. The ones complaining are most likely the ladies who keep their websites up to date and honor the posted fees. (Standby for a call from someday) Unfortunately, you are the minority! I have often been told that the price has recently changed or that there are extra charges for certain things which were not mentioned on the website. I will always confirm the prices before committing to a date. It is just the way it is, if you get bitchy about it, I don't take an appointment.

[Guest S**a*Q]

Free incoming minutes... Or setting up chemistry? Lol, something in there helps me accept the calls that I get. I'm not sure if hearing someone's voice adds to the experience, but I like talking to someone before we meet.

 

As for the questions... Welcome to retail. I've worked in retail stores for a long time and no matter how much signage you put up, how many times people have heard an ad, they'll still ask you the questions that you don't want to hear...

 

People love to shop but they like to be sold on things, they want to be told what to buy, but they want to feel like they are still in control of the purchasing decision. It's the same there here... They call knowing what they already are going to ask about, but there's something that's stopping them from making the final purchase, it's up to us to close the deal, as the MOD had said. Maybe it is just to hear your voice... Maybe it's to make sure you're a girl, or at least sound like one... I don't know why each individual does, but they will and they will keep doing it, it's human nature...

 

The questions are repetitive, but it's their lead into having a conversation with us... it's up to us to do the rest :) I don't mind a few calls like that, I really don't "work" anything close to a 40 hour work week, or 55 like one place... So answering a few calls here and there is just secretarial. :D

[CookiesNScream 363]

If they just want to chat... it's usually because they are looking for a free phone sex session. I try to keep a 2 minute rule. If they try to chat longer than that, it's because they are looking at My gallery on My site and beating off while chatting about services offered.

 

just My thoughts....

[VictoriaJolie 64127]

Well after reading Mod post yesterday i longely reflect on it and slept over to come with:

I think both party have to do their part

 

While i agree with some points that MOD refered to..Here is my opinions:

Some ladies don't advertise phone number because probably like me, they don't like talking on the phone and have not much patience via this line of communication.It does not only apply to my work but also when i call my bank,rogers,etc.

In no way it does reflect that in my session i am not patience and attentionate

 

So the question would be why do you post you phone number then..Well i though i would try to accomodate everybody.

 

The reality is that you can't please everybody,that in our society we leave in a world where most are concentrated on themself(i include myself in this).

Older i get i have learn and yet still have to learn to put myself in others shoes.Alas i am not perfect.

 

To recognize who is not a serious caller or time waster...But where do we draw the line who is?

 

To my personal experience each guy that call believe that they are serious that their call are important.

 

Would it be not common sence to think that if you call and wish to have few minute to talk that the phone call could start by something like:

Hi i'm John from Ottawa i have read your ad or website and still have few questions..Do you have few minutes?

 

Then

 

hi

how much do you charge?

Or are you available now

 

 

I personaly know that opening a dialog like the first example would probably make me want to give you a couple minutes and if i can't talk,ask you to either call me back at a certain time .

 

The second example while it may obvious for you for which city you call it may not be for me.That is were i think that the gent has to put themself in our shoes.

 

The reason i was mentionning that getting familiar with each girl website or ads is that some prefer you to call,some email..

Some travels extensivly...I'm on the last i travel extensivly...

Is that your problem that i travel to 10 cities in a month..No it isn't..That my schedule is really condense...No it isn't however it can make you understand why i may not have a whole of a lot of time to spend over the phone.

That many factors can affect me when i answer the phone...

 

 

While i am willing to walk half the road to meet you...And make effort to answers more often questions over the phone i think that some guys that are serious and want to feel our personality should do their part and be courtois when calling.

 

I can't even count anymore how many time someone call and ask me if i am in a city that i am not and when i answer they don't bother to say thank you but just hang up...

 

As Mod said that phone call might be what it take for a client to sell the deal: Well i agree however if you are buyer would you have not done a little bit of homework before buying.

If i have someone that has took few minutes to see my site and decide hey let give her a call to see what she is like over the phone...Well i have to say that you most likely will get a positive response if you show me up front that you have read and just need to re-confirm few things.

It will make it easier for me to assume that you are serious and do give you some time over the phone.

 

As for the person that has mentionned the video..I am not sure to who it is point out but i know that personaly so far everybody have brought their own cameras..There for have their videos.

That i have Video YMMV because unfortunatly not every day i do feel like having someone filming me and if i can't accomodate someone for extra like this and greek i don't take the money requested for those extras.

 

I have no need to rip off anyone and most that have met me that have left tips or extra money always been told that they were extra money that they could either come back to pick it up or i could apply it as a credit

That recently i add to my website that if you choose that option that you would be ask to sign a waiver..Why?

While i have mention many time that it has to be for personal use someone thought it would be great to put it on porn site..There for breaching my privacy

If want to be on the internet i would have put them myself.

 

 

So lastly i will make my efforts to accomodate more often gentlemen to answer questions over the phone..:boobies:

 

 

VJ

[Guest s******ecan****]

 

I think both party have to do their part

 

 

While i am willing to walk half the road to meet you...And make effort to answers more often questions over the phone i think that some guys that are serious and want to feel our personality should do their part and be courtois when calling.

 

 

 

VJ

 

 

I think this is a great point. Just because some guys call to see if the lady is friendly, etc, doesen't mean that is why they all call.

 

In this case I really believe its up to each lady how to structure her own business model. All the ladies I have seen involved email/PM contact only prior to my appointment. I just never found the need to call. Some indicated in their contact info that appointments could be made by phone or email, others stated email only or email preferred.

 

For my own business I prefer my client contact to be email as much as possible. I do get silly questions on the phone and this doesen't bother me, but I'm in a notably different line of work than the ladies here on CERB so I can understand why some are find phone conversations to be especially annoying.

 

Also I'm much more productive on email and I tell my clients this.

 

Just my humble thoughts

[mod 135640]

This leads to some good questions... Maybe a worthy poll if someone wants to create one for this topic?

 

For instance...

 

1) How many people just look at the photos and don't really read the details? I know some ladies write PAGES of info (Overwhelming) others don't write enough (This may scare some people away) some use amazing well written text, others use bad language and punctuation (some have language barriers as well)

 

2) Do you (the guys) feel you need to be reassured? How many people do not trust the text? Have read stuff on ladies profiles only to find out that those services (Like the video service that was mentioned) were actually not on the menu (or worse... they ripped you off)? Maybe this is a big reason for the questions as well... other ladies who are not very honest in the text are wrecking this for everyone as the general population is loosing trust in your ads.

 

3) Do you call the lady just to hear her voice and to "feel her out" over the phone?

 

4) Do you call to see if she has a sexy voice?? I remember a lady about 10 years ago who advertised with one of our sites. Her photos were stunning (10/10 easy) and she called our office to make a payment and I answered the phone and was SHOCKED. She was a VERY nice lady but it sounded like she was speaking through a voice box. She emailed us at the end of the month to tell us she was disappointed as she did not get many bookings from the site. I asked her if she got many calls and she said yes but they did not book her (She didn't seam to realize that her voice was turning guys away obviously). A sexy voice would go a LONG way in this business.

 

This topic opens up a lot of spin off discussions. The ladies in this business don't have a outlet for formal training on how to answer phones for this business... and many of the agencies (Remember most of the ladies get into this business by either friends or agencies) are agencies are often not setting a good example of how to run a business properly. Many of these ladies copy the agency and inherit the agencies ethics assuming this is how it's done in this business.

 

Maybe we need someone to produce a DVD for Canadian escorts with some "How to" guides!! - Honestly that may not be a bad idea.... how to place ads, ethics of the business, how to answer the phones, email, texting, voice mail, how to seal the deal, how to schedule your appointments, what to say when... etc... (Probably have some legal issues in certain topics but this could really help some of the new ladies and the ladies who are struggling with different aspects of the business)

 

I have script software from another project I worked on for a sort of clone site like the YAHOO-ANSWERS site (where you ask the question and the community helps answer the questions and you vote on who gave the best answer so that when someone else asks the question the answers show up with the best answer on top). I wonder if something like this be beneficial for our industry? I think it may!

[Xracer86 122]

Definately a good topic, as I have been in different towns with no internet or photo's available. With a verbal description & just the voice on the other end has sold me!! You can tell alot about a person by there phone manners.:smile:

[Meg O'Ryan 266444]

Mr X....I agree. That is why I never book an appointment without hearing the gentleman's voice first. You can just tell who I "ok" and who isn't. Perhaps intuition?

[Guest s******ecan****]

Maybe we need someone to produce a DVD for Canadian escorts with some "How to" guides!! - Honestly that may not be a bad idea.... how to place ads, ethics of the business, how to answer the phones, email, texting, voice mail, how to seal the deal, how to schedule your appointments, what to say when... etc... (Probably have some legal issues in certain topics but this could really help some of the new ladies and the ladies who are struggling with different aspects of the business)

 

 

Certainly the ladies could benefit from something like this, also aside from CERB the ladies would be well advised to find ways to share best practices and brainstorm ideas. Conference calls, regional meetings (could book in guest speakers like accountants, nurses, customer service experts etc) all kinds of ideas. Plus they could get to know each other better.

[Carrie Moon 68826]

Victoria Jolie. So many great points! I would like to comment on some of the points you bring up.

 

There are 4 types of ways of receiving data when communicating according to NLP (neurolinguistic programming), and therefore a variety of preferred types of communication. Visual, Auditory, Kinesthetic and A-D auditory digital (data/information/science). When people first attempt to communicate with all of those to attract a mate they give off the best first impression but as they get to know one another better they relax and fall back to their dominant mode. You are not auditory.. at least on the phone. You may or may not be in person.. ie enjoy hearing naughty talk.

 

I'm primarily kinesthetic and I feel out a person through their voice on the phone. ie. I get a vibe. I can also get a vibe from seeing the person's photo and especially their smile which is why I find it important to not only see sexy photos on a website but also relaxed smiling photos! Too many of the girls have glamour photos but none smiling.. I filmed with Niki V about 5 years ago and was so pleasantly surprised by her winning smile when I met her in person. Not at all evident on her site.

 

I don't mesh at all with people who are A-D because they have no clue how to touch a person and can't carry on a conversation. Those people seem robotic to me. I do have a colleague who is like that and she's great for sharing information but we can't hang out and have a beer.

 

A person who calls who is only interested in information without any feeling will not make me connect so I will not respond appropriately. They might go away feeling nothing or feeling ignored... either way no loss on my part because the session would have likely zapped my energy anyway... confusing me as to how to please them.

 

Other times I have pleased them a lot but with no signals coming from them I have no idea until they thank me at the end of the session. I'm sure you've all had this experience. It has nothing whatsoever to do with your skill if you don't speak A-D :)

 

My best clients are kinesthetic and visual like me. They are excellent skilled lovers who can soak up my attributes visually and touch me in a way that I feel I'm being sculpted from scratch by god himself.

 

So.. before the internet.. we only had the phone. I used to do very well on voice ads because I have a sexy voice. My description was indeed what sold them as I booked appts with a mere 60 seconds over the phone. This can also conjure up a visual image to the visual client. Imagination is my most powerful ally both for the client and for me.

 

I hear ya mod on the horrible voice. Sometimes an accent can even turn me off if it's one I associate abrasiveness with. I can usually instantly hear if someone is a heavy smoker.. but none of that will deter me if they are respectful and appreciative.

 

I used to work a variety of customer service jobs over the phone and in person during my lifetime. When you work for someone else you have no choice but to accept the good and bad from everyone. As a provider however I have the freedom to refuse service in person or over the phone to anyone.

 

I don't think any of the girls in this thread are saying that we are bitchy to the callers we don't like. The initial poster was merely venting and I think now understands why this happens. It will give her and the rest of us more tolerance which is the best outcome from this discussion.

 

A DVD on how to explain better business practices for escorts? Possible but not very likely.. These same errors in business occur in every industry. Most restaurants fail that start up. Many retail stores have employees that don't seem to know what they're doing. Think of virtually any business you have dealings with and they all pretty much fall short.

 

Also..trying to explain certain things about nuances is virtually impossible. The main reason some escorts are in this business is for the freedom to run things the way they want. Some are in the biz because they are inept at working in the real world whereas the ones who stand out have soooo much experience in the real world it translates to this business as well and they are successful and popular.

 

There are so many girls who do a great job and you have way more choices than ever before so count your blessings instead of trying to help those who are bad at their job.

 

Like attracts like. The ones who are lousy at answering their phone will get clients who don't care. The 'tire kickers'' (got that from Christine) will continue to call around til they get the price/activity that sparks their interest and care little how the girl looks or sounds. Then will complain about it afterward. Well.. you get what you pay for.. and you who put little effort into research deserve to be disappointed.

 

sorry to be so long winded.. but just had my morning cup o'joe and I'm a bit verbose :)

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I thought i would answer your questions just from my point of view only.

 

1) How many people just look at the photos and don't really read the details? I know some ladies write PAGES of info (Overwhelming) others don't write enough (This may scare some people away) some use amazing well written text, others use bad language and punctuation (some have language barriers as well)

 

I have found that in some sites that there is enough information. A quick BIO, a quick glance at snap shots, contact information. I don't want to read pages, but just some quick facts. In most circumstances, I find the majority of ladies sites very well done a enough information

 

2) Do you (the guys) feel you need to be reassured? How many people do not trust the text? Have read stuff on ladies profiles only to find out that those services (Like the video service that was mentioned) were actually not on the menu (or worse... they ripped you off)? Maybe this is a big reason for the questions as well... other ladies who are not very honest in the text are wrecking this for everyone as the general population is loosing trust in your ads.

 

Be quite honest, I never have been ripped off from a lady that has a site, in fact I found each every one of them to be very truthful in the services provided.

 

3) Do you call the lady just to hear her voice and to "feel her out" over the phone?

 

Sometimes, but now in today text world, I would text for appointment, time,meeting venue.There is more occasions that I would call her, "To feel her out"

 

4) Do you call to see if she has a sexy voice?? I remember a lady about 10 years ago who advertised with one of our sites. Her photos were stunning (10/10 easy) and she called our office to make a payment and I answered the phone and was SHOCKED. She was a VERY nice lady but it sounded like she was speaking through a voice box. She emailed us at the end of the month to tell us she was disappointed as she did not get many bookings from the site. I asked her if she got many calls and she said yes but they did not book her (She didn't seam to realize that her voice was turning guys away obviously). A sexy voice would go a LONG way in this business.

The voice never bothers myself, you can get a SP that is very tired in the morning, and sounds like she is right out of it, but she would state that I'm a little tired. Or there is a lady here that has one very sexy raspy voice, some men don't like it, but I find it to be very sexy. I don't hold all my cards, and then bail on a lady because she does not have a sexy voice, on the phone.

 

On the most part when small introductions are completed through a email or pm, then I like to flirt a bit with the lady.

 

The norm after flirting and getting to know each other, I can tell that we will have a good time together.

 

I can honestly say that 99.9999% of my dates are most excellent, with a lot info on a web site, or little info, and even with ladies with no web sites.

 

And when I talk to the ladies on the phone I find all of them to very respectful never bitchy, perhaps that is because I act that way first with the ladies.I always am very respectful of the lady I'm going to meet, it is fun like going on a first date! I don't talk long on the phone because I'm not hands free yet..shhhhh don't tell anyone.:mrgreen: