Incall Vs Outcall

[Zeek 100]

Incalls are more convenient but I heard outcalls are more safe and legal.

[Meg O'Ryan 266444]

while incalls are illegal, most reputable sp's work in a discreet location and are low volume. Law enforcement are not really interested unless it is obviously running as a bawdy house. I think you are pretty safe to consider the ladies (on cerb) that offer incalls.

[Capital Hunter 18263]

Zeek, you are correct that incalls are illegal and outcalls are legal. I agree with Meg however, that reputable cerb indies are very safe to see even for incalls. So, from legal point of view it is safe to be an outcall only hobbyist but there is always a price to pay for that (a bit more expensive and in my case to miss out on a number of beautiful incall only SPs). From safety point of view there are pros and cons. I suggest you refer to this old thread for more details and discussions on the subject.

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http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=4562&highlight=outcall

 

This updated thread may be useful too on the legal aspects of incall versus outcall.

 

http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=25973

[Pink Kitty Escorts 6195]

This is a very common thread and discussion. We have been doing both for years and in the past have had more issues for LE and security on Outcalls than Incalls.

 

Technically Incalls are illegal; that said it is not something LE is interested in pursuing for the time being.. Thats not to say in the future that might change.. LE is more interested in the safety of the escorts and have been visiting and talking with them regarding safety ect..

 

Outcalls are typically more expensive as they factor in travel costs.. But the advantage is clients can chill on their own turf.

 

One piece of advice I give to any SP who is doing outcalls is to get a landline and reverse look-up to confirm the address before going on the outcall.. Its something we now insist on.

 

To each their own, I think both have their pros and cons.. My advice is whatever works for you best is what you should choose.

[rileydaniels 1901]

I have worked both incall and outcalls. and I personally enjoy incall better since it's a more relaxed environment for myself.

 

When I was working with an agency I didn't enjoy or felt safe of the fact when it came to outcalls they sent us out anywhere they could get money. and some places weren't ideal for an SP to visit.

 

From what I have also noticed that indie sp who offer incalls seem to be more concern about discreetion then agency incalls. some incall agencies will pack the incall with girls and have them in 2 bedroom units generally.

 

and have the girls rotate using the rooms and shower, and if there is just 1 shower and 2 bedrooms the whole discreetion is no existent.

[fortunateone 156618]

Incall ensures client privacy -- no one need know full name, address and landline phone #, and this would (or should) be required by any sp indy or agency setting up outcalls. (For their safety, and also to help ensure it is not a prank call. ) Outcalls tend to be more expensive. Many sps are going to use a driver for protection. At the very least, they will provide all of your details to someone else as to where they are going.

 

I think you will find a more relaxed and comfortable sp in her own space, rather than coming to you wondering what you have hidden in the closet, or if you have been drinking excessively, and that is why you didn't want to drive to see them, or whatever else might go thru their mind. With incall, they are in their own space, and normally would have a safe call (someone they call at the beginning and end of an appt) who will be looking out for them.

 

If you use a little common sense, it is doubtful you will set your incall appt up with a disreputable sp who is looking to rip you off with some dude in the other room. I have a hard time believing that the ads they create don't just scream it out lol. In any case, if you do not feel 100% confident that who you contact is going to be 100% on the up and up, do a 411 here to check her out, or simply do not go. See a few reputable ladies with good histories first until you know what to look for, what to watch out for, and you should do ok.

 

I know this one guy who I think has seen 100's of sps, most recently all would be via CL, and to this date has had only a few not up to par experiences, and been actually extorted for cash once (well, twice, but it was the same sp using a different name) (which is unfortunate, since this same sp was actually providing inexpensive services at least a year ago, so something changed to the point that now she doesn't even do that, but threatens the guy with a bf in the next room for the $$)

[Zeek 100]

Very good points being made. Outcalls tend to be more expensive but are more safe and legal. I'd rather pay a little extra money and have peace of mind but that's just me.

[Capital Hunter 18263]

I'd rather pay a little extra money and have peace of mind but that's just me.

 

No, that is me too:). And likely many others.

[Meg O'Ryan 266444]

although I understand that you need peace of mind....I cannot recall (from my research) a man or woman being arrested or fined in Ottawa for incall services provided by an indy. If you are not operating a common bawdy house, the chances of persecution are slim to none. The majority of indy's are low volume and thus, do not attract outside attention. Just my 2cents worth (seems to be the new catch phrase here on cerb LOL)

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

... Just my 2cents worth (seems to be the new catch phrase here on cerb LOL)

 

Once they finally eliminate the penny, we'll have to start nickel-and-diming each other!

[Meg O'Ryan 266444]

Oh Father time...only an eastcoaster could come up with that statement!

[Pink Kitty Escorts 6195]

Again, its like anything else, use common sense. If you are planning on doing an incall make sure it is in a location that isnt in a high risk/ghetto area. Honestly LE isnt going to give you a hard time.. It hasnt been an issue in years.. The only time LE gets involved is if there is a complaint, like partying, excessive noise.. ect.. This type of stuff isnt worth the paper work. The only thing that gets their attention is SW's and again it is due to complaints.

 

If the place you get to isnt up to par and you feel uncomfortable just leave. No harm No foul.. This is about an enjoyable experience and a chance to pamper and treat yourself. If its not going to be the case, do not waste your money, or comprimise your security..

 

I totally support the outcall idea as well.. But it is such a tiny part of our market.. Like maybe 5% tops.. so for escorts it is more lucritive to do incalls as well as outcalls..

[Zeek 100]

I agree that there is a small chance of running into LE even with Outcalls. But with outcall i know where i'm going with incall i dont. I could get an address which leads me to some crack den.

[Old Dog 179138]

All of it is so dependent on variables... it isn't just as simple as client preference.

 

For me it really doesn't matter, but if I had to choose an outcall is preferable. With no SO at the present time, I don't have to worry about evidence or discovery... and it keeps me on my toes with keeping my place neat and tidy. I am rather fortunate at the present time... my reg feels as comfortable at my place as she does in her own.

 

That being said... if outcall is not an option, we are blessed (at least in the Ottawa area) with a plethora of beautiful women that will entertain at their own place or in another upscale location.

 

It's win/win.

[Andee 220524]

 

One piece of advice I give to any SP who is doing outcalls is to get a landline and reverse look-up to confirm the address before going on the outcall.. Its something we now insist on.

 

Jason: Agree whole-heartedly. Years ago, before the Internet was available, we had to use the phone book to confirm, but it worked.

 

The reason why my out-calls to private residences has dropped off over the years is because many people now only have cell phones and it's impossible to verify their address. And it is now possible to transfer your "home number" to a cell phone. So even if someone is calling from what you may think is a land line number, it's not always so.

 

I have had to pay my driver out of my own pocket because of fake or wrong addresses, so I unless I can verify them, I don't go.

 

Hotels of course are different, because I simply tell them I need their name and room number and confirm them to their room before setting out. In the last 10 years, I have only had one dud call, where the guy would not answer the door to his room and then I discovered him lurking around the lobby. I guess he wanted to see what I looked like, but I was surprised he would have given me his room number if he was going to play games.

 

I figured it out, waited a few minutes until he went back up to his room. Then I called his cell phone (the original number he called me on) and I could hear it ringing inside his room. When he answered it, I asked him to please open his door because I did not want to cause a scene. Without anything nasty going down, I was able to persuade him to give me the cancellation fee which I used for my driver.

 

So I consider myself pretty lucky that way. As I said it is getting more and more difficult to verify home addresses to telephone numbers which is why I rarely do them anymore.

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

I could get an address which leads me to some crack den.

If you research the provider and she has a plethora of good reviews, this shouldn't be an issue.

[PistolPete 61421]

Hence my reasoning for only participating with ladies that offer in calls:D The other issue she is not high volume,has day time hours, not really late night hours because then you get nosy neighbors.

 

If you research the provider and she has a plethora of good reviews' date=' this shouldn't be an issue.[/quote']

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

Hence my reasoning for only participating with ladies that offer in calls:D The other issue she is not high volume,has day time hours, not really late night hours because then you get nosy neighbors.

Yup. I'm very fortunate because I run another (super straight/vanilla) business out of my apartment, which I have permission for from my building manager. So if anyone asks any questions, I have a really good answer =oD

[Capital Hunter 18263]

As a frequent visitor to Montreal (and former resident) I have noticed that in Montreal (contrary to Ottawa) it is overwhelmingly outcalls only:confused:. This is the case with agencies (about 90% of escorts work with agencies, another contradiction with Ottawa where ladies are mostly indies) and indies alike over there. Not so far able to figure out why!!!!.

 

True enough that reputatble cerb SPs will never lead you to a crack den, however, as a separate issue, sometimes with incalls, it is not the SP which may be a problem but rather the neighbours (especially in a hotel room) who may see, hear or notice incoming traffic and may call the cops (or may be a noisy previous client) while I am still in the room. I remember 2 years ago I was in a CLASSY hotel in Montreal calling for girls (taking advantage of better rates I called for 3 ladies that night) and as the third one knocked on my door and when I opened the door, the neighbouring guy came out and gave me a strange suspecious and angry looks. That made me quite nervous (even though in my mind it was outcall and legal) that I wasn't able to ..... for the whole hour (the lady I called for was supposed to give me a hard time not the nosy neighbour lol:D).

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

True enough, however, sometimes with incalls, it is not the SP which may be a problem but rather the neighbours (especially in a hotel room) who may see, hear or notice incoming traffic and may call the cops (or may be a noisy previous client) while I am still in the room. I remember 2 years ago I was in a CLASSY hotel in Montreal calling for girls (taking advantage of better rate I called for 3 ladies that night) and as the third one knocked on my door and when I opened the door, the neighbouring guy came out and gave me a strange suspecious looks. I became so nervous (even though in my mind it was outcall and legal) that I wasn't able to ..... for the whole hour.

I wasn't saying LE could never be an issue. I was responding to the comment that the client may end up in a "crack den."

[Capital Hunter 18263]

Yes and I acknowledged your statement to be true Megan, but on the top of that I also commented on a separate possible LE issue with incalls. I was not critical of your true statement, however, since I quoted you, it may have appeared that way. So, I apologize for my mistake and will go back and remove the quote.

[PistolPete 61421]

True enough, however, sometimes with incalls, it is not the SP which may be a problem but rather the neighbours (especially in a hotel room) who may see, hear or notice incoming traffic and may call the cops (or may be a noisy previous client) while I am still in the room. I remember 2 years ago I was in a CLASSY hotel in Montreal calling for girls (taking advantage of better rates I called for 3 ladies that night) and as the third one knocked on my door and when I opened the door, the neighbouring guy came out and gave me a strange suspecious and angry looks. That made me quite nervous (even though in my mind it was outcall and legal) that I wasn't able to ..... for the whole hour (the lady I called for was supposed to give me a hard time not the nosy neighbour lol).

 

SA...

Personally and my demeanor, I would said to the guy, "If his eyes were stuck" OR " "Life is great, isn't it?" OR "Hey care to join us"..LOL...

I'm dam sure that I would of "been able to DO the entire hour and more" LOL:bddog::bjs::69:

[Capital Hunter 18263]

Good advice Pete. I remember it next time that it happens to me. It was the beginning of the hobby for me then and I wasn't 100% sure about outcalls being legal then.

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

Yes and I acknowledged your statement to be true Megan, but on the top of that I also commented on a separate possible LE issue with incalls. I was not critical of your true statement, however, since I quoted you, it may have appeared that way. So, I apologize for my mistake and will go back and remove the quote.

No worries at all, SA! I just wanted to clarify my position. :)