Guest b***b**m Report post Posted June 9, 2010 I used frequent strip clubs a lot a couple of years ago, but I have fallen out of touch recently. Do you think the strippers would mind if we were to compile a picture database and times where they work and where? It would only boost their business as well as allow us to have discussion, well aware of whom we are speaking of. :pimp: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Megan'sTouch 23875 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 I think most strippers would have a huge problem with pictures. Also, most strippers don't work regular schedules. That is what of the huge bonuses of stripping, that you can just show up and work at most clubs. I never liked posting a schedule because it takes away my freedom to work when I please. I only make exceptions for meeting regulars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mod 135639 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 The dancers would indeed have a big problem with this also the fact that you called them strippers as most prefer the term dancers. . The big time feature dancers (not really many left I don't think) they would hand out promo posters. Booking agents for these girls post the pictures on the Internet as well. . I have not been to a club in years so i don't even know if they still book feature acts these days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Megan'sTouch 23875 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 The dancers would indeed have a big problem with this also the fact that you called them strippers as most prefer the term dancers. I'm not sure I agree with this. I've been a dancer for 2.5 years and it's very rare that I find a woman who strips is offended by the term "stripper." I actually prefer the term stripper over dancer. I almost find the term dancer offensive to people who practice dance as an art (this includes some strippers but not most). I'm being paid to strip, so I call myself a stripper. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capital Hunter 18263 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 The dancers would indeed have a big problem with this also the fact that you called them strippers as most prefer the term dancers. .. I quite agree with this statement that most dancers prefer the term dancer to stripper. In those 12-15 years that I used to frequent SCs in both Ottawa and Montreal I made friends with a large number of dancers and always called them dancers and never heard any objection to the term used. In a few occasions when the lady called herself a stripper, I corrected her and said that she is a nude dancer and never got any objections either. Since I never called anyone a stripper so I can't know how the reaction would have been to this term. So, I guess there may be some that may not like the term dancer but quite frankly I never came across those who prefer the term stripper over dancer in all those years. To be honest above post was a total surprise to me when I read it but I have never been a dancer of course and unless I am, I can't make a definite assessment on the preference of the terms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Megan'sTouch 23875 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 In a few occasions when the lady called herself a stripper, I corrected her....... This wouldn't go over too well with me. I identify as a "stripper" and I don't need anyone to correct me. Self-identification is a personal matter and there is no right or wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capital Hunter 18263 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 This wouldn't go over too well with me. I identify as a "stripper" and I don't need anyone to correct me. Self-identification is a personal matter and there is no right or wrong. Those few occasions that I refer to were my friends (very best) not total strangers. Friends always share thoughts and views in a friendly manner. It wasn't like a debate or argument or anything like it but a simple friendly conversation. I knew them for years and sometimes they corrected me when I was expressing a view not shared by them. You have of course total right to decide on how to identify yourself and to your view and I have an equal right to mine and what to call my friends but I would never correct a dancer (excuse me a stripper) that I just meet in an SC unless she is a really close friend of mine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Megan'sTouch 23875 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 Those few occasions that I refer to were my friends (very best) not total strangers. Friends always share thoughts and views in a friendly manner. It wasn't like a debate or argument or anything like it but a simple friendly conversation. I knew them for years and sometimes they corrected me when I was expressing a view not shared by them. You have of course total right to your view and I have to mind and I would have never corrected a dancer (excuse me a stripper) that I just met in an SC. I think it was your word "correct" that irked me. There is nothing wrong with sharing your views, but using the word "correct" implies that you are correct, and she is wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capital Hunter 18263 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 I think it was your word "correct" that irked me. There is nothing wrong with sharing your views' date=' but using the word "correct" implies that you are correct, and she is wrong.[/quote'] Yes you are right but I didn't mean it that way. In my book a lady is never wrong and I always take responsibility for being wrong. The use of words "corrected her" may imply that she was wrong. Not so. What would be the best word??. I reminded her in a friendly manner ......or .I expressed my view that..... I am lost for words after over 8 hours of intense work since 6:00 am. My apology. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Megan'sTouch 23875 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 Yes you are right but I didn't mean it that way. In my book a lady is never wrong and I always take responsibility for being wrong. What would be the best word??. I reminded her in a friendly manner ......or .I expressed my view that..... I am lost for words after 8 hours of intense work. My apology. It's okay, S_A. I tend to be a stickler for language ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Dog 179138 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 This wouldn't go over too well with me. I identify as a "stripper" and I don't need anyone to correct me. Self-identification is a personal matter and there is no right or wrong. A rose by any other name.... frankly it is semantics. I think that the "performance" over the last number of years has evolved to being less "dance" and more a combination of gymnastics, titillation, and evocative movement rather than "dance" per se.... and that being said, it is not to denigrate what is being done on stage. In the pioneer days when I first went to strip clubs, there were always three dances, the first a "real" dance, the second a dance and peel and the third was the rug show (both literally and figuratively, it was the 70's!!) As to the original point... the schedule can be a nightmare. With so many clubs and so many shifts, someone may do the minimum at one club because of the client/performer ratio and move to another club on the same day to see if they can make their goal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capital Hunter 18263 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 Not a problem Megan. I was not clear in my first post that they were my friends and not just a dancer/stripper that I met in a bar and the use of the word "corrected them" was incorrect. Leaves the impression that I was right and they were wrong and as you said it very rightly, there is no right or wrong in this (Ah, my brain is working again:)). Going back to the original subject yes, I am sure overwhelming majority will have problems with pictures. Those that I knew (my friends) I would say they did take pictures with me (we were both dressed well before or after the date) and very few (less than 10% of dancers and less than 5% of escorts) encouraged me that I take nude pictures of them BUT FOR MY PERSONAL VIEW ONLY not public view of course. I think their problem will be a lot more serious (and rightly so) if their face is displayed in public. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest w******o**a Report post Posted June 10, 2010 Megam, I didn't realise you danced, Are you okay with saying where? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cowboy kenny 50799 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 Back in the 80s when I worked in a few of our popular clubs all owned by Frank B as was the agency that booked the girls, we did a calendar of the house girls for a few years. It was quite popular and a huge money maker we donated proceeds to CHEO, but now a days I think you'll find dancers/strippers/entertainers prefer to be a little more discrete. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mod 135639 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 Maybe things have changed in the last 10 years. I managed a number of adult clubs and even was part owner of one at one time. Back then if you referred to any of the ladies as a stripper they would see that as derogatory and be pissed (few exceptions with the really easy going girls) ... At that time the girls all liked to be referred to as exotic dancers (more classy than "stripper" or "peeler".... And god forbid if you called a showgirl a dancer or anything else or worse.. If you called a feature a showgirl or dancer....was some sort of status in the clubs back in those days (the strippers hierarchy) Things do change so maybe that is no longer an issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capital Hunter 18263 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 Actually I just remembered that I have a large calender poster of Pigale/Barefax dancers in my second bedroom. About 50 girls sitting at the front and standing in the back in rows showing all their faces as well as their half-dressed bodies. I was given this poster a few years ago at Barefax on a special night (can't remember what was the occasion) Therefore what I said earlier that taking pictures of dancers' faces may be a serious problem for dancers may not be true (likely it would be a big problem for escorts for discretion/legal reasons. BTW, I genuienly believe that now too calling exotic dancers as strippers would be derogatory to most dancers (at least some) based on my over 10 years of experience of friendship with a large number of dancers between 1996 to 2007. Most of them called themselves dancers (with a few exceptions). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antlerman 17064 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 call the ladies what you may.......but I have always enjoyed a nice cold beer at the Ballet...........:boobies: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrie Moon 68826 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 I always found it funny that strippers would refer to themselves as dancers because then if it wasn't obvious from their attire.. I would have to ask.. what kind of dancer? I don't know too many tap, ballet or hiphop dancers but it was always a awkward question left hanging in the air.. and usually the answer was exotic dancer. I felt the same way when stewardess became airline hostess (isn't it something else now anyway? I forget), waitress/waiter became server and when as a secretary I became a personal assistant. Political correctness? not really sure.. I really disliked it when people did away with Miss and referred to me as Ms.. yeuck.. always made me think of my lesbian gym teachers..not that there's anything wrong with that! but why take away my option to remain Miss in questionaires? however on the subject of photos.. even if girls have photos in posters doesn't mean they want them online. One should always ask. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Dog 179138 Report post Posted June 11, 2010 Instead of stripper, could we use the term "clothing challenged individual?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrie Moon 68826 Report post Posted June 11, 2010 bwhaaa ha ha! Old dog. I love you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Dog 179138 Report post Posted June 11, 2010 bwhaaa ha ha! Old dog. I love you! awwwwww shucks... back at ya Carrie! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ava Foxx 1747 Report post Posted June 11, 2010 Kind of off topic, or maybe not... When I was living in Ottawa, my best friend decided to try out stripping. She was (is) stunning and she was a favourite at the different clubs that she worked at. So much so, that when she was working at The NuDen, they used her picture in a local magazine and put it up on a billboard (with her knowledge of course). Only took 2 days before her father became blatantly aware of where his daughter was working :shock:. Spreading your picture around when you are trying to stay low key is not always a good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Megan'sTouch 23875 Report post Posted June 11, 2010 Megam, I didn't realise you danced, Are you okay with saying where? I danced regularly for 2 years and now I only dance once in a blue moon. I try to go in once a week but it ends up being more like once a month. Additional Comments: Instead of stripper, could we use the term "clothing challenged individual?" I think I could handle that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrie Moon 68826 Report post Posted June 11, 2010 ooo.. I for one would love it if you let me know when you're dancing uh.. I mean becoming clothing challenged so I could be entertained by your lovliness :bddog: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belleoftheball 395 Report post Posted June 11, 2010 I'm not sure I agree with this. I've been a dancer for 2.5 years and it's very rare that I find a woman who strips is offended by the term "stripper." I actually prefer the term stripper over dancer. I almost find the term dancer offensive to people who practice dance as an art (this includes some strippers but not most). I'm being paid to strip' date=' so I call myself a stripper.[/quote'] I do classical dance and I find every time I tell someone I'm a dancer that person assumes, because of my age, I mean "stripping". That can be slightly offensive. But I do have many friends that dance in the strip club and I have never heard them say they dislike the term. I personally prefer to use the term Exotic Dancer anyways. I think it sounds sexy and alluring :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites