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This thread is directed to the SP's, but please feel free to add any of your input. I am an avid fan of DATY/DATO.. and I was wondering if DATO was outside the norm of a GFE experience..

 

How do SP's feel about DATO? Is it something that should be discussed beforehand?

 

Any input would be greatly appreciated..

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This thread is directed to the SP's, but please feel free to add any of your input. I am an avid fan of DATY/DATO.. and I was wondering if DATO was outside the norm of a GFE experience..

 

How do SP's feel about DATO? Is it something that should be discussed beforehand?

 

Any input would be greatly appreciated..

Discussing it beforehand means it won't ever work out. There is way too much talking always going on, just get it done already.

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I can't speak for everyone, but I think it's safe to ASSume that if a lady offers Greek, she likely won't mind a little rimming.

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You really don't have to worry about the risks or "ick" factor of ATM if you are using dental dams, which you should be if you are into licking ass.

 

That being said, I would not consider it GFE, but more in the PSE realm of things and I would ask before doing it.

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I came awfully late to the DATY party (my early 40s) and now I can't get enough. Same goes for DATO (only a few months).

 

I read the original question as implying it's someone looking to include it on a visit to either a new or barely-known SP. I have done it to someone I had met for the first time, and afterward I pretty much wondered where my head was at, that night. (Still wondering on that one.)

 

Number one, you will want her to be clean and I mean surgically so, special care taken (you will be able to smell the cleanliness if that is the case). Any undesirable scent, no matter how faint = back off immediately. Second, ask yourself, would I share a bottle of water with this person? A toothbrush? Well?

 

The risk of cross-contamination with the vagina is very real, so make it your last stop, not the first. As for you, I would strongly recommend an extended mouth rinse-out with Listerine (or, better, straight-up alcohol) as soon as possible afterward. Think twice about it, if you have gum problems.

 

Frankly it's the sort of thing I would put on the menu only after having developed a trusting, long-term "relationship" with an SP who does things as a real professional and with whom you are continuing to explore new avenues of pleasure.

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Even if a lady offers Greek service, it should not be assumed that she like all types of ass play. When I offered Greek service, many guys assumed that I like having their fingers shoved up there as well...NOT SO. To put it bluntly, I hate it. That was one of the reasons I stopped offering Greek; too many assumptions were made in terms of what I would do and how far I would go :S.

 

And just to add, when a lady says, "Stop doing that; I don't like it", WE REALLY MEAN IT! We're not trying to tease or play coy. It means we really don't like it. Don't push it.

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Even if a lady offers Greek service, it should not be assumed that she like all types of ass play. When I offered Greek service, many guys assumed that I like having their fingers shoved up there as well...NOT SO. To put it bluntly, I hate it. That was one of the reasons I stopped offering Greek; too many assumptions were made in terms of what I would do and how far I would go :S.

 

And just to add, when a lady says, "Stop doing that; I don't like it", WE REALLY MEAN IT! We're not trying to tease or play coy. It means we really don't like it. Don't push it.

That's actually kind of surprising to me, if you can tolerate greek, wouldn't it be much easier to tolerate digits?

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That's actually kind of surprising to me, if you can tolerate greek, wouldn't it be much easier to tolerate digits?

 

You have obviously never experienced a noob shoving his fingers in your ass, lube be damned.

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Discussing it beforehand means it won't ever work out. There is way too much talking always going on, just get it done already.

 

 

Is this a joke? I don't think many ladies would appreciate the "...too much talking.....just get it done already"

 

Sounds a bit aggressive, but then maybe you were just kidding.:confused:

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Is this a joke? I don't think many ladies would appreciate the "...too much talking.....just get it done already"

 

Sounds a bit aggressive, but then maybe you were just kidding.:confused:

 

 

It too was wondering about that remark, if it is a joke it's not funny at all.

 

Communication , open and honest is key to an enjoyable session of wakkaa wakkaa, especialy when dealing with activity around the "o"

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Is this a joke? I don't think many ladies would appreciate the "...too much talking.....just get it done already"

 

Sounds a bit aggressive, but then maybe you were just kidding.:confused:

Just a comment on spontaneity, or the lack thereof. If you're going to break down every single act you do in private into a distinct action that requires discussion ahead of time, then you're just going to ruin the moment. If a girl doesn't want you to do something, then she'll let you know verbally or non-verbally when the moment comes.

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Just a comment on spontaneity, or the lack thereof. If you're going to break down every single act you do in private into a distinct action that requires discussion ahead of time, then you're just going to ruin the moment. If a girl doesn't want you to do something, then she'll let you know verbally or non-verbally when the moment comes.

I disagree completely. I have much better experiences with men when we are clear on what's allowed, what's not, what I like, what he likes, what we don't like, etc.

 

Negotiating during the actual encounter ruins the moment.

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Just a comment on spontaneity, or the lack thereof. If you're going to break down every single act you do in private into a distinct action that requires discussion ahead of time, then you're just going to ruin the moment. If a girl doesn't want you to do something, then she'll let you know verbally or non-verbally when the moment comes.

 

Well I couldn't disagree more. Communication is essential to a good experience. I don't think many ladies would welcome a client who comes to the meeting with the idea that "I'll just act as if all items are on the menu and if she doesen't like it she'll let me know, either verbally or non-verbally". Seems to me all the interruptions where she says "WTF to you think you're doing?" might actually lead to more ruined moments.

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Absolutely Megan, I always like the discussion period out of the way prior to the engagement. Nothing like ruining a very intimate time together.

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That's actually kind of surprising to me, if you can tolerate greek, wouldn't it be much easier to tolerate digits?

 

They are two completely different sensations. Has nothing to do with "tolerance". If you need further proof; bend over...:rolleyes:...lol.

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They are two completely different sensations. Has nothing to do with "tolerance". If you need further proof; bend over...:rolleyes:...lol.

 

 

LMAO!!!!! :sm185:

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I think most guys know where most of the boundries are. And therefore, if you think you want to test those waters, you should be asking before exploring the checking things out.

 

That said, I wouldn't say everything should be discussed. If the lady advertises GFE and won't kiss, won't lick and won't let you lick, I don't think that you needed to check all those things out. I have encountered a couple of these, and it really takes everything out of the experience. Might as well crank up the porn and take care of yourself.

 

But DATO, no question this needs to be discussed.

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That's actually kind of surprising to me, if you can tolerate greek, wouldn't it be much easier to tolerate digits?

From what I understand, never having had it, the provider has some to most of the control over how deep, how fast and how hard penetration gets during greek. It's a bit different when she's trusting some guy to stick 1 or more fingers in there. Ask anyone who's ever had tp endure digital rectal stim in hospital or a rehab center how unpleasant it gets if dpne badly.

 

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Just a comment on spontaneity, or the lack thereof. If you're going to break down every single act you do in private into a distinct action that requires discussion ahead of time, then you're just going to ruin the moment. If a girl doesn't want you to do something, then she'll let you know verbally or non-verbally when the moment comes.

Just curious, how long have you been hobbying? Because in my 20 + years. I've met a lot of providers, and they have all had rules. Some have more rules than others, some relax rules as trust increases. I've never had a no rules date though. As a general rule, my approach to anything new with my regular SP is something like, "hey sexy, I've never done ____. would you mind if we try?" Asking never hurts, the worst she'll do is say no. Incorrect assumptions can wreck moods fast.

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In my opinion, in every sweet, sticky, steamy "situation", without question, there should never be any...ugh...i've gotta say it...assumptions made in this oring..err...area! The owner of the "O" is the Keeper of the KeY. The author of the rules, and solely reserves the right to modify such rules, should she/he wish to do so, at any time of their choosing. To me, this one's logged strictly in the : "I want this done to my naughty zone, baby! Would you do that for me?"

By request only from the owner of the little starfish. I'm actually a little surprised by some SPs ads offering a trip to the Isles and/or DATO without a very boldly emphasized YMMV. Not a criticism, of any sort of course. Just curious and a little surprised. Would've chalked this one higher up on the "personal mood and wants of the moment", and making certain first that the client's not packin' a fire hydrant and displaying signs of a more aggressive level of sexual conduct through the first 3 "conventional" bases. As in everything - very much a personal choice and preference.

 

Never personally been my thing, but i've happily accomodated two exgfs who'd would've been ready to DEMAND greek ! (Actually, one did:exagerefesses:)

Got so our(hers) sexual weekly menu, which started out with a single special weekly Saturday night trip to Athens, quickly became 4 day long weekends...or more! Got so the coach was having me sprint through the bases straight to the duggout. Maybe some girls' gradual approach to it when in a new relationship not wanting to be somehow viewed differently?? Wild guess. Never asked, never wanted to. Like I said - it's not my thing, but i'm certainly not against it.:lol: Can be a very addictive personal sexual pleasure. Definitely an all or nothing pleasure for most, especially women understandably. Not many "sorta like it"s out there, i'm sure.

 

*snap*Yeesh! Getting too sexually analytical here. Time to set the bong down and surf some porn.

Sorry, W.A.Jimmy, if I sorta, kinda didn't really stray off course on your post. Not too far, anyway, from DATO to Greek.

Ladies - get that fireman's hydrant portrait out of your heads !

 

G' night, everyone.

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Just curious, how long have you been hobbying? Because in my 20 + years. I've met a lot of providers, and they have all had rules. Some have more rules than others, some relax rules as trust increases. I've never had a no rules date though. As a general rule, my approach to anything new with my regular SP is something like, "hey sexy, I've never done ____. would you mind if we try?" Asking never hurts, the worst she'll do is say no. Incorrect assumptions can wreck moods fast.

 

Well, I've been hobbying pretty much as long as you then. I think everyone is having a big time misinterpretation here about what I am trying to say. If you're already with someone that you are at the level of DATY with, then I don't think that going down that extra 1 inch to DATO is going to be a big game changer for them. Afterall, it's you putting in that extra effort to even be willing to go down there. :smileysmontrefesse:

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Well, I've been hobbying pretty much as long as you then. I think everyone is having a big time misinterpretation here about what I am trying to say. If you're already with someone that you are at the level of DATY with, then I don't think that going down that extra 1 inch to DATO is going to be a big game changer for them. Afterall, it's you putting in that extra effort to even be willing to go down there. :smileysmontrefesse:

How many men who enjoy blow jobs also enjoy having their assholes handled? I'm sure some love it, and for a lot of men that is a no-go region. For you to assume otherwise shows a lack of respect for the woman you are with.

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You have obviously never experienced a noob shoving his fingers in your ass, lube be damned.

Actually I have, an MA I used to see wanted me to give it a try: I didn't walk right for a week after that. :shock: She wanted me to try it once again after that, but I didn't let her try it on me again for months after that. She was a little disappointed that I didn't let her because she really seemed to look forward to doing this, and she did improve eventually. Still a finger was way too much for me, so I can't see how a penis is an improvement on the situation.

 

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How many men who enjoy blow jobs also enjoy having their assholes handled? I'm sure some love it' date=' and for a lot of men that is a no-go region. For you to assume otherwise shows a lack of respect for the woman you are with.[/quote']

Well, I've never had anyone I was with ever say that I was disrespecting them, but they were usually too busy enjoying it. But as I said, you can usually tell if someone doesn't want you go there. If they don't want you to go there, then don't go there.

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Afterall, it's you putting in that extra effort to even be willing to go down there. :smileysmontrefesse:

 

this just doesn't sound right....if a guy is going to go there then it's mostly because HE wants too...he really does need to ask the lady if it's ok...i know many men that are really into it i mean really into it...it's their kind of fetish thing...so you really have to ask the lady be it Escort or real Gf you have to ask...

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f you're already with someone that you are at the level of DATY with, then I don't think that going down that extra 1 inch to DATO is going to be a big game changer for them. Afterall, it's you putting in that extra effort to even be willing to go down there. :smileysmontrefesse:

 

I guess the issue everyone is having is the assumption you're making is that every lady will/does enjoy this sensation. Based on the feedback from the ladies so far this is obviously not the case. No matter how good you are at what you're doing, if someone doesn't like something, or has an issue with certain areas of their body it's not going to end well. Best guess is they will grin and bear it but then make a mental note to not see you again. Worst case is you get a boot to the face and then another one out the door :)

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