WTF is a WRONG with people?

[Guest m**l]

I have to let everyone know that I am quiet angry as i write this. as many of you are aware this is not the easiest job or career to always be in.

 

That being said I enjoy what I do and immensely enjoy meeting new people and have had the fortune of meeting more good people than bad ones.

 

During the last year while being a memeber of CERB I have met some indivuals who at first were clients and now have become almost like extended famil and friends!IT'S AMAZING WHEN YOU TREAT A PERSON WELL,IT IS RECIPROCATED FOR THE MOST PART! It has also been my fortune to make friends with some of the SP's and MA's on CERB. FOR THE MOST PART, MY CAREER AS AN SP ON

Cerb HAS BEEN A POSITIVE AND LUCRATIVE EXPERIENCE.

 

NOW FOR THE BAD NEWS!:

 

1)I AM TOTALY SICK OF MEN WHO TRY TO NEGOTIATE on a set rate or special . This is fucking ridiculous. You are paying for my time. I am an educated and honest, classy and empathetic , sexy, loving, compassionate and passionate woman. I treat you as a person not a number. I invitie you into my home, my bed, my shower, my most intimate and private places and most importantly inot MY LIFE" When you go to work does your boss say to you: ''Well I think today, I am only going to pay you 10$ an hour as opposed to 30$ you are truly worth!" YEA RIGHT! FUCK YOU: PAY ME!

 

2)WHO THE HELL DO PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE TO OFFER DRUGS AS PAYMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Believe it or not many of the SP's on this site are: STUDENTS & MOTHERS who are just trying to get ahead in this harsh financial day and age. We do not drink and drug and disrespect our bodies

and minds. We are trying to further ourselves, support our children, further our education as indivduals practicing the oldest profession know to WOMAN and MAN. Does your boss say to you: "Hey there Bobby this week I am going to give you 2 grams of pot and 40 bucks,instead of that 1000 per week your used to, work hard for and put up with all kinds of madness, you dont mind do ya?'' YEA RIGHT FUCK YOU: PAY ME!

 

3)NO MEANS NO! SAFE MEANS SAFE! THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS TO THIS RULE AT ANY TIME.AND DEFINATELY NON-NEGOTIABLE IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM. NO AMOUTN OF MONEY IS GOING TO MAKE ME RISK MY HEALTH ! I LOVE MYSELF, MY BODY, MY SPIRIT AND MY HEALTH...OH AND MY PUSSY !

 

 

We as indivduals, be it male, female, shemale, gay, lesbian or straight, black, white or brown deserve respect. We deserve this respect everywhere we go. At work, at play, at school, at home, walking down the street...wherever we maybe at any given time, rich or poor, famous or infamous we have boundries that must not be crossed or negotiated.

 

Thanx for reading my rant....:butt:

 

Feel free to pm me or call me should you want to further this conversation!

 

Miel

 

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[Mutau 2516]

Miel, what you are experiencing are individuals who no matter where they are or what they do, will consistently get it wrong. Some men think that what they want is what should happen. Evidently they have not read all of the warnings which ladies put up for people to read. Ah, it is the "it applies to others not me" syndrome. Some cads will never learn.

 

Unfortunately, they cause problems for the ladies and give the rest of us a bad reputation. My apologies for those others who have brought about your anger. We are not all like them, thank goodness!

[gentle-man 100]

Well said Miel. I am sorry for the problems you have experienced. But I am glad that it is a minority that are causing problems. Feel free to vent when ever it is needed. It might help you feel better and maybe some of these bozos will realize the disrespect they are showing. Wishing you only happy encounters in the future!

[Carrie Moon 68826]

Hang in there hun.. we all have those what I call 'theme days' when the next guy seems to be ruder than the last.

[Old Dog 179138]

Miel, what you are experiencing are individuals who no matter where they are or what they do, will consistently get it wrong. Some men think that what they want is what should happen. Evidently they have not read all of the warnings which ladies put up for people to read. Ah, it is the "it applies to others not me" syndrome. Some cads will never learn.

 

Unfortunately, they cause problems for the ladies and give the rest of us a bad reputation. My apologies for those others who have brought about your anger. We are not all like them, thank goodness!

 

 

Well stated Mutau.

 

I must point out that that yours is the first post to have used the word "cad" since the changing of the millennium; completely appropriate use of the word. I might have used the word "cur" or "rump fed runion", but "cad" captured the true essence of your statement.

 

For Miel... I am so glad that you recognize that these (damn now I need a word to top "cad").... SCOUNDRELS (I was going to go with blackguards or scalawags, but that would have been overkill)... these scoundrels are the exception rather than the rule; they seem to sully the reputation of the legion of people who respect and love what we do.

 

In this we must be thankful that we do have a forum like CERB where we can besmirch these rascals and feel better knowing that we are not alone!

[Sophie Lauren 881]

Amen Sister!!!!... just remember, that you are a smart, strong, beautiful, incredible woman, and each one of us appreciate the strength and courage it takes to be open enough to share your thoughts and experience, whether they are good or bad.

 

A little inspirational thought to live by:

 

Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"

Not sure who wrote that, but I wake each day, to remind my self today is better than yesterday.... The next incredible positive experience is just around the corner, or a phone call away!!!

 

Smiles... xxx Sophie

[Guest w**lb**l]

"you can't fix stupid!" or ignorant!

[SPANISHDREAM69 100]

wow you have read my mind thank you for posting this your amazing:bowdown:

[GreekFreak 101]

Good job and well put :wink:

 

GF

[lipualipua 4704]

Miel : I am so sorry. It is incredible the depths to which some people can sink in how they treat others. I am glad you say that many of the clients you have met have been honourable. Please do not let that scumbag dampen your enthusiasm for waht you do.

[Lowdark 5613]

Miel is justified in her frustration. Not only is it an insult to her, but she is right when she points out that some of the ladies here are mothers. Everyone should remember that being a mother is the most important job in the world and keep that in mind when they insult a lady by trying to haggle or barter for their time.

[Kate von Katz 49953]

A-fucking-men, Miel!! These guys are not worth your time and don't even come close to deserving a quality encounter with a stellar lady. And sadly, you can't fix dumb. Some people just don't get it and never will. But keep your chin up and know that we all understand exactly what a piss-off this kind of behavior is and we're here for you!

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[Reddog01 30280]

Miel, I nominated your post because I agree and support your message and what you said during your rant. However, Miel, the expletives are a bit harsh (YEA RIGHT! FUCK YOU: PAY ME!). Ok, I don’t consider myself a prude, and can swear as much as the best of them, but you can get your message across without the “Fuck You” don’t you think? A wide audience is reading this, and most if not all, certainly don’t condone the actions that you have been exposed too, and can surely sympathize. I hope these actions never happen again. On the other hand, I hope the message you are sending (FUCK YOU: PAY ME!) to a particular person or persons have been received loud and clear. Hope your Canada was great.

[Old Dog 179138]

There are times when the F-Bomb is the ONLY viable way of getting a message across. Given the nature of the post and the passion with which it was expressed, one can only surmise that this is not an issue that can be packaged with "wonderbread" adjectives and verbs.

 

I will give an example. On Wednesday evening, after the CERB social, I offered one of the attendees a ride home. To my dismay, when approaching my car I found that the passenger window was hanging in shards and that my vehicle had been the subject of malicious vandalism and theft of items contained therein. My ire was tangible. I do believe I held my tongue, but internally I was seething. My wonderful evening was absolutely ruined by some miscreant with a penchant for theivery. BTW this unfortunately is absolutely true.

 

If you read the above paragraph, you see control and very little emotion. What I could have written was: " When I came home from the CERB party, I found out that some ASSHOLE broke my car window, stole my GPS and ruined a pair of RayBans. They rifled through my stuff and then the fucker left. Nice fucking way to start my Canada Day."

 

Which one do you think is the way I actually felt?

[Reddog01 30280]

Ok, point taken. I am a bit reserved, however I admit I have been known to scream some expletives when driving (especially in Ottawa).

 

Sorry to hear about the break-in. I would love to catch those "Assholes" in the act.

 

I hope to make the next CERB social.

[Old Dog 179138]

No probs RD... thanks for taking a step back and seeing it through different eyes.

 

I just felt a kindred spirit with Miel in a rather tangential way. The situations are different but the disrespect is the same, whether it is presupposing that Miel's time and effort is open for negotiation, or that my property is someone else's for the taking. It's just wrong, and the message needs to be understood.

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

I can relate to you Miel. Usually these guys are few and far between for me but when I meet them, I just want to bitchslap some of them. For example, I had someone call the other day and asked if I "partied". I just hung up.

 

It's like you constantly have to be on guard and sometimes that can give a good client a bad impression such as asking them to take care of business prior to an encounter. In a perfect world, they would always pay at the end or place the envelope on the table but when you have to ask for it beforehand because you're so paranoid you'll be ripped off or shortchanged, it does sort of ruin the mood. However, it has to be done because we are providing a service and how we make a living or by supplementing other income.

 

Just keep going because for every idiotic client, there is always a nicer one waiting in the wings. I have also learned that if you give an inch, people will often take a mile. Or they will expect things if you do something once. Nothing can change people's behaviour or their ways but we can often change our approach to how we do things and that is what has kept me going when I encounter these type of clients. They're not even worth calling clients. Just emotional drainers.

[Leber 1328]

Miel, do not let these guys get to you. It's not worth your headache and time.

[Carrie Moon 68826]

Sorry to hear about car Old Dog.. I had mine broken into on the weekend past.. but they managed to get in and out without damage to my car. I like your example.. I like to swear a lot when I stub my toe for instance. It's a release isn't it?

 

I don't know why people get more offended by expletives than by actions.. I guess it's because we're such ''polite'' Canadians.. my poor mom cringes when she hears me swear though.. no matter how old I get it will always offend her sensibilities.

[Isabella Gia (Banned) 53881]

 

What is wrong with people when the person (Reddog01) who suggests this could be done in a more respectful way is the one who ends up apologizing.

 

I understand we all get frustrated at times and yes we are free to express that however we choose, but in order to share it with others (especially if posting) in my opinion one should find a way to do it so that nobody feels uncomfortable by it.

 

When the negotiation mentioned in the original post is compared to how a boss/employee would react well, normally an employee has a salary not a rate. We (sp's) do not have a boss nor a salary so is not the same.

 

However, people who do business in any field working independent or having a boss often try to negotiate or get deals and constantly get no for an answer, then they decide if go for another option or taking that one if it covers their needs and suits their budget or look somewhere else.

 

I do know some men think our profession is different and allows them to ask for things they wouldn't ask for anywhere else but Miel as you mentioned you are classy, so just decline that way and if they are the kind that don't listen just say 'I have already said no so will hang up now, thank you for calling'

 

Now, Old Dog, is such a shame that happened to you but is a complete different situation as in your case they stole something from you, this is not the case here as asking for a discount or extras is not stealing from someone, some consider it disrespectful yes but still is different.

[Guest m**l]

i cant believe how many people read my post! WOW! thats pretty cool to know that i have so many peoples attention! yay me!

 

i just wantesd to say that i have had alot of pms and was busy yesterday so i didnt have alot of time to reply to all of the emails, but i will today!

 

thank you everyone again for the words of encouragement and support! CERB memembers rock! hey! think im gonna make and sell t shirts that say that! heh hehehehe

 

Additional Comments:

cads, scoundrels... i like all these words! i will use them more often!

 

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[Meg O'Ryan 266444]

CERB memembers rock! hey! think im gonna make and sell t shirts that say that! heh hehehehe

 

:boobies:

 

I will buy one! Miel, you ROCK! Thank you for venting in the open forum! Now everyone is aware of some of the pitfalls albeit few and far between when you stick to fellow cerbites!

[Guest m**l]

so yes i agree the whole f u pay me thing is a bit harsh, but would one not say that if they're boss was trying to keep their paycheck? i understand the language was harsh but harsh behaviour begets harsh reactions and language!

[Carrie Moon 68826]

yup.. I have been getting a lot of phone calls lately from the US.. guys who have no intention of booking me but rather have recently come across my porn and want to chat.

Recently one asked me my info.. and when I directed him back to my site.. he paused and then said. 'bitch' before hanging up.. believe you me.. I had a few choice words to say back to him... but thankfully that is rare.. and also why I don't accept blocked calls ever. That way I can save his phone # so he can't offend my ears again.

[Old Dog 179138]

 

What is wrong with people when the person (Reddog01) who suggests this could be done in a more respectful way is the one who ends up apologizing.

 

I understand we all get frustrated at times and yes we are free to express that however we choose, but in order to share it with others (especially if posting) in my opinion one should find a way to do it so that nobody feels uncomfortable by it.

 

When the negotiation mentioned in the original post is compared to how a boss/employee would react well, normally an employee has a salary not a rate. We (sp's) do not have a boss nor a salary so is not the same.

 

However, people who do business in any field working independent or having a boss often try to negotiate or get deals and constantly get no for an answer, then they decide if go for another option or taking that one if it covers their needs and suits their budget or look somewhere else.

 

I do know some men think our profession is different and allows them to ask for things they wouldn't ask for anywhere else but Miel as you mentioned you are classy, so just decline that way and if they are the kind that don't listen just say 'I have already said no so will hang up now, thank you for calling'

 

Now, Old Dog, is such a shame that happened to you but is a complete different situation as in your case they stole something from you, this is not the case here as asking for a discount or extras is not stealing from someone, some consider it disrespectful yes but still is different.

 

Isabella, I do agree with you. My point however is that sometimes when we reach a pivotal moment in a day, week, month or career, the ability to communicate with other's sensibilities in mind is somewhat diminished.

 

As I stated, my empathy in this thread for Miel is tangential, not directly related to a similar situation... but similar in that we both reached a boiling point and the words flowed as they formed in our thoughts. That was the sole purpose for the defense of the language used. Sometimes dagnabbit and gosh don't cut the mustard.

 

My request of RD was merely to step back and view it with different eyes. The interaction between us was jovial and it certainly wasn't confrontational; my original post actually stated the same thing twice... once in a rational arm's length manner, the other in the "true emotion" that I was feeling at the time. It was a request to examine the impact of language in its purest form, that emanating from the core of emotion.

 

An apology was neither requested nor expected, and I hope you can understand the root of my empathy.

 

Now can I go back to being off colour and goofy? ;)