Cancellations with SP

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

Another thing to consider is the nature of the work. I've had two episodes of sickness where I cancelled all my clients over a period of 3-4 days. In both cases, I had a mild cold and felt generally okay and continued to do my day job and other activities.

 

However, erotic massage is very intimate. Unlike people I come into contact with at an office job or the university, I am rubbing my body all over my client and practically breathing down his throat. This is some serious risk for passing along germs. While it's okay for me to sniffle/sneeze/cough occasionally and then put on hand sanitizer at the office, I can't imagine a client being too impressed with me sniffling/sneezing/coughing on him!

 

I refuse to work without being 100% healthy because I don't want to put my clients at risk. I have never had any complaints and only appreciation from clients. I have also had quite a few clients cancel due to illness, even mild illnesses, and this is always appreciated on my part.

[L********&*****s 112]

Just so you all know I did say sorry to this person when I sent a text saying I cant make it...you know how many CLIENTS have cancelled with me??? Im sure every girl on this site has had to deal with it once or twice... Sorry As I said things do come up for not just me for anybody...

We all have lives outside cerb, or at least I do...

[roamingguy 300292]

Another thing to consider is the nature of the work. I've had two episodes of sickness where I cancelled all my clients over a period of 3-4 days. In both cases' date=' I had a mild cold and felt generally okay and continued to do my day job and other activities.

 

However, erotic massage is very intimate. Unlike people I come into contact with at an office job or the university, I am rubbing my body all over my client and practically breathing down his throat. This is some serious risk for passing along germs. While it's okay for me to sniffle/sneeze/cough occasionally and then put on hand sanitizer at the office, I can't imagine a client being too impressed with me sniffling/sneezing/coughing on him!

 

I refuse to work without being 100% healthy because I don't want to put my clients at risk. I have never had any complaints and only appreciation from clients. I have also had quite a few clients cancel due to illness, even mild illnesses, and this is always appreciated on my part.[/quote']

 

Megan

That sounds like the right and professional thing to do, unlike my first sp who (without going into details) was not 100% up to doing the job so to speak. And she had ample time to cancel/postpone, with an early morning email conversation with me, along with a phone call some two hours prior to our appointment.

Sometimes an sp cancelling is the best thing to do

RG

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

It is always useful to keep in mind that Cerb is a recommendation board. Publicly posting negative information, such as that a particular lady no-showed or cancelled, is not permitted. Each recommendation that has been posted about a lady is (or should be) a reflection of a positive experience with that lady ... one precondition of which is that she actually showed up. Any lady who is a wonderful companion ... when she shows up ... will tend to collect a number of glowing recommendations. But, any tendancy she might possibly have to no-show or cancel (for whatever reason) just will NOT show up explicitly in the public postings here on Cerb. This is a simple fact, and it is a perspective that potential clients should always remember.

 

The proof of the pudding is in the tasting. I know from simple experience that there is just not a guaranteed correlation between:

1) a lady's being a wonderful companion once she shows up; and

2) the odds that the lady will show up at all.

These are two different "outcome sets", if you will. A long string of posted recommendations "can't all be wrong" ... about the first outcome. But their existence by no means rules out the possibility that there has also been a long string of snubbed clients and potential-clients as well.

 

Have you been left out in the cold by a "very reputable" lady? With no seemingly reasonable explanation? By all means look in the mirror if you find yourself on a "losing streak" in this regard ... but also don't let cognitive dissonance drive you crazy, either. Just remember what exactly her Cerb recommendations mean -- and don't mean.

[HarveySpecter 1908]

Therefore, it would be safe to say that someone with prominent and great recommendations on cerb would certainly have been decent enough to give some kind of explanation not showing up or warning just in time before the appointment that was set that it would be cancelled. I believe that would be the professional thing to do except if i am wrong.

 

The reason for this thread is sadly the opposite of what i have just said. I mean we all have our private lives, sure. But communication is key and a 2-way thing and if a person cannot respond after all methods have been exhausted (texts, emails, phone calls/ voice mails/ cerb pm) to get a reason from her then certainly there is a cause for alarm.

 

It is always useful to keep in mind that Cerb is a recommendation board. Publicly posting negative information, such as that a particular lady no-showed or cancelled, is not permitted. Each recommendation that has been posted about a lady is (or should be) a reflection of a positive experience with that lady ... one precondition of which is that she actually showed up. Any lady who is a wonderful companion ... when she shows up ... will tend to collect a number of glowing recommendations. But, any tendancy she might possibly have to no-show or cancel (for whatever reason) just will NOT show up explicitly in the public postings here on Cerb. This is a simple fact, and it is a perspective that potential clients should always remember.

 

The proof of the pudding is in the tasting. I know from simple experience that there is just not a guaranteed correlation between:

1) a lady's being a wonderful companion once she shows up; and

2) the odds that the lady will show up at all.

These are two different "outcome sets", if you will. A long string of posted recommendations "can't all be wrong" ... about the first outcome. But their existence by no means rules out the possibility that there has also been a long string of snubbed clients and potential-clients as well.

 

Have you been left out in the cold by a "very reputable" lady? With no seemingly reasonable explanation? By all means look in the mirror if you find yourself on "losing streak" in this regard ... but also don't let cognitive dissonance drive you crazy, either. Just remember what exactly her Cerb recommendations mean -- and don't mean.

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

Therefore, it would be safe to say that someone with prominent and great recommendations on cerb would certainly have been decent enough to give some kind of explanation not showing up or warning just in time before the appointment that was set that it would be cancelled ....

 

BB, my point was that it is absolutely not certain.

[Guest S***dst***]

Yipee skippy it's now he said, she said... Thread closed IMO.

[masterowls 249]

this has happened to me once or twice...and i was a regular!! and she is a very reputable SP.

I was actually at her door and she texted she wasn`t when I had texted to say I had arrived.

An aplology or explanation would have been nice and would have been sufficient.

 

Perhaps she has her own `issues`

 

i would even understand that

Okay guys, just my two cents here. This site is called the Canadian escort recommendation board. I would say that if somebody is ruining your experience by not showing up, the best way to prevent it from happening again is to start naming the person doing it. Maybe she's relying on people being too scared of ruining her reputation, and has got lazy. Not only do escorts and the other SPs need to stick together against bad clients, we clients need to start sticking together, and telling each other about the service or lack of service, so that only the professional, polite, and punctual get work. I'm sorry, but if some one stood me up, after I made firm plans, and didn't explain herself, the very first thing I would do is post her name, exactly what happened, and recommend that no one called her, because she is unreliable. That may sound extreme, but at least it saves the next guy some time. It does no good to post five 0pages of complaints if the girl is anonymous because she still out there, potentially pulling the same crap on other clients. Which only makes it more difficult for the girls who legitimately want work, because trust becomes eroded. Again this is only my opinion.

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

... the very first thing I would do is post her name, exactly what happened, and recommend that no one called her, because she is unreliable.....

 

MO, that would violate the rules and philosophy of Cerb. "No negative comments, reviews". What makes Cerb special is that it is a safe place for the ladies to participate. Like anything else, this involves some tradeoffs.

[PistolPete 61421]

MO, that would violate the rules and philosophy of Cerb. "No negative comments, reviews". What makes Cerb special is that it is a safe place for the ladies to participate. Like anything else, this involves some tradeoffs.

 

Well said WIT!! I would give you rep points,but couldn't..then again you have a 1000 so you don't need anymore..lol :lol:

[masterowls 249]

MO, that would violate the rules and philosophy of Cerb. "No negative comments, reviews". What makes Cerb special is that it is a safe place for the ladies to participate. Like anything else, this involves some tradeoffs.

Your point is well taken, however, it's my belief that by calling herself a service provider, and then not providing service over and over again, the lady in question has already violated the spirit of CERB. You're right in that this is a safe place for women to participate, however that keyword is missing in this lady's ethics. There should be a way in place for guys to inform other guys if a provider is bad;, just as there is a bad date list for providers. Again, this is only my opinion.

[fortunateone 156618]

Your point is well taken, however, it's my belief that by calling herself a service provider, and then not providing service over and over again, the lady in question has already violated the spirit of CERB. You're right in that this is a safe place for women to participate, however that keyword is missing in this lady's ethics. There should be a way in place for guys to inform other guys if a provider is bad;, just as there is a bad date list for providers. Again, this is only my opinion.

 

 

There are ways, just not on this particular site. And also, word of mouth, or just simply doing it too often in a way that eventually every new or regular client experiences it at least once. When that happens, no amount of past recommendations or even the lack of negative reviews or comments on this site will help.

 

I think the main focus of this particular site is for sps to not have to be defensive, or get attacked and trashed. This will happen regularly on the other sites; also will be encouraged in a way simply by allowing it to happen in the first place. If clients wish to get to know an sp by her posting and presence, then going onto a review board where this happens will get a completely different groups of sps willing to post than this site which allows them to relax and be more themselves. For many clients, that difference is invaluable.

 

There are many eastern review sites where, if you are having specific problems with an sp's reliability you can go ahead and post the info there. But to me, that is more like an un-review, it is not a review. It does not discuss a session, or services, or attitude or environment provided. It is simply a statement of fact: she did not show up, she did not cancel (or cancel in time to make a difference), she has done this often. What real purpose does that sort of thread serve, really, especially if the service, etc is really great when it happens and the event of No Show is very infrequent? It seems that the poster of such an announcement or warning has a grudge, an axe to grind, a beef, a means at his disposal to get revenge on her? Considering they have not met, or met before and things went well, how valuable is that lol. I think most would prefer to find out what she is actually like in session, not that this particular client cannot go with the flow, lacks understanding and might be a bit too high maintenance. I do find that many sps might end up avoiding someone who posts such a thread, if he is not careful enough to avoid sounding bitchy. :-D

[SmartnSexy 2089]

What real purpose does that sort of thread serve, really, especially if the service, etc is really great when it happens and the event of No Show is very infrequent?

 

I'm sorry, but this makes no sense to me. Maybe I'm interpreting this incorrectly, but from what I've just read, in your mind, it is absolutely ok for an SP to cancel on a client with no reason given or forewarning.

 

I'm not sure about you, but I was taught that when you make a commitment you need to honor it, or at least provide a valid reason (or any reason) why you can't.

 

Regardless of whether or not the service is great when the SP does actually try, if she doesn't try half the time what's the point?

 

To answer the question, the purpose of the thread MO was describing is not to "get back" at the SP. It's to advise potential clients of the situation the experienced, if enough of these threads arise then clients will start wondering if they should really book with the SP. Is abuse possible? Absolutely, but no one should be dissuaded by one client who had a bad experience. Now if dozens of people started "abusing" with regards to one SP I'd start wondering what she did to upset these people.

 

However, to WIT's point this is CERB, when we signed up here as potential clients to the ladies here we committed to not talk trash or say bad things. Again to WIT's point, this has tradeoffs, but in my opinion provides a better atmosphere here on board.

 

With regards to the OP, I think he was just looking for input on his situation and commend him for not naming names. It's unfortunate the SP responded in such a threatening tone. I think that it would have been better if this were settled in PMs.

[masterowls 249]

To answer the question, the purpose of the thread MO was describing is not to "get back" at the SP. It's to advise potential clients of the situation the experienced, if enough of these threads arise then clients will start wondering if they should really book with the SP.

 

Thank you for clarifying my point. I do not advocate, and never will support maliciously attacking an SP or anyone else. On the other hand, I do believe that potential clients have a right to all available information regarding the provider they are thinking about hiring, including whether or not they are known to cancel with no notice. For myself it takes several days trying to organize personal care around my appointments with service providers. This can include having to call the office and ask if they can send my care aides at different hours, or for more or less time. depending on what I've planned. If I'm hiring somebody new, I'd like to know, that they're going to be on time. You see not only does making these changes require effort on my part, but it also requires my case manager to make changes to her staffing plan for the whole day, which in turn inconveniences the caregivers. I'm fortunate in that my case manager is a sweetheart and will try very hard to give me what I want. However if I start changing times every other day to accommodate an SP who has chosen not to show up, eventually she is going to start saying no. Therefore I say again, even here, there should be at the very least a reliability index of some sort perhaps similar to reputation points like we have for the boards. No one needs to attack anyone that way, but it would rapidly show who has a tendancy to leave clients hanging. And the girls could use the same index to see if a guy is likely to noshow on them, before they book.

[Seymour 3970]

Therefore I say again, even here, there should be at the very least a reliability index of some sort perhaps similar to reputation points like we have for the boards. No one needs to attack anyone that way, but it would rapidly show who has a tendancy to leave clients hanging. And the girls could use the same index to see if a guy is likely to noshow on them, before they book.

 

Makes sense masterowls - this isn't all encompassing though. For instance, there are quality providers that advertise with Escorts Canada (CERB's parent site), with no board presence/participation and their business does quite well - because they have developed good customer rapport (by way of a screening process that works for them, good communication and decent response times, not to mention top notch service).

 

Some general comments on this topic of cancellations:

 

The underlying fact with these types of threads is someone will in fact be outed - either in public, or private. There is obviously more to this CERB story and we likely will not hear - not that we need to hear as that will likely get much more negative than it already is.

 

Ladies have the right to choose their clients - just look around, screening practices are different among many.

 

Clients too also have the right to choose their dates - different factors appeal to different people.

 

Bottom line, as a prospective client, if one gets the run around, move on. As a provider, if one does not get a comfortable vibe from a client - cancel the date. This is just plain common sense.

 

We all agree there are times when things come up and dates need to be canceled (from both sides) - sure, it is not unreasonable to expect an explanation for a cancellation. But then too in trying to get said explanation, one can become overbearing - or come across as overbearing.

 

The point I'm leading up to with this is when in a heated emotional state, one should not be pressing the issue. Sometime it is easier said than done, but the reality is it is the safest approach.

 

It is a harsh reality of this business that one will get canceled on -it really should not be taken personally.

[Capital Hunter 18263]

MO, that would violate the rules and philosophy of Cerb. "No negative comments, reviews". What makes Cerb special is that it is a safe place for the ladies to participate. Like anything else, this involves some tradeoffs.

 

Yes good idea to keep cerb as is (friendly with no negative comments), and again true, this is the trade off. I believe however, that ladies can name the no show hobbyists (those with no good excuse) in the SP private area in addition to the unsafe encounters. Gents can also exchange the no shows (again those with no good reason) in the form of PMs. So, in my view, status quo is the best.

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

I don't think CERB should allow posting the no-shows just because of the negative repercussions it would have. If I'm sick and have to cancel, I don't want to be thinking "oh no, is this going to be reported on CERB? Should I just take a pill and work anyways?"

 

I cancelled very last-minute once when my cat was bleeding badly and had to be put to sleep. What purpose would it serve for it to be posted "Megan cancelled last minute on me today." ??

 

I do believe some negative comments about no-shows would be merited, but it would also cause providers like myself who cancel very occasionally/rarely and with good reason to have bad things posted and that's not fair!

[masterowls 249]

I'll admit that the rating I propose would only cover ladies who have a presence here... but since it's most likely I'll try to date a lady I met, or saw reviewed here before surfing 30-40 other sites...(well maybe not literally but you get the point) some Idea who's reliable would be good, and like I say it might be useful to the ladies too.. No one system is going to be foolproof and at first there may be bugs, but judging from the size of this thread, noshows on both sides are an issue. All I'm proposing is 1 way to identify who is doing it regularly, so that both sides have all the info to make informed choices as to if they want to book or not I'm not proposing it be used to attack or impune anyone..

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

How can you identify who is doing is regularly without posting about SPs who are normally reliable but got sick, etc. ?

[Guest W***ledi*Time]

MO, I agree with you that no-shows and last-minute cancellations are the absolute bane of this delightful pastime. I admire your motives in striving towards a solution.

 

... I'm not proposing it be used to attack or impune anyone..

 

In an ideal world, all people would be honest, and act responsibly. But any negative feedback mechanism (of any design whatsoever) will, in the real world, inevitably be abused by the unscrupulous or the overwrought as an instrument for malicious purposes such as revenge, jealosy, and the whole alarming and disgusting range of human pettinesses.

 

Practicalities: How does anyone adjudicate a snakepit of innumerable he-said, she-saids, so that no-one's reputation is unjustly tarnished? How does one determine which side (if either) is telling (how much of) the truth? Where do the resources and manpower come from to administer such a nightmare? Cerb cannot solve this problem. Cerb works so well precisely because it purposely steers clear of such distasteful and wearisome squabbling.

 

(p.s. I love the humans, I really do!)

[masterowls 249]

How can you identify who is doing is regularly without posting about SPs who are normally reliable but got sick' date=' etc. ?[/quote']

An SP who is sick one would think would call to cancel... not be a no show.

[Megan'sTouch 23875]

An SP who is sick one would think would call to cancel... not be a no show.

There are legitimate reasons why an SP might be a no-show. I've never done it but accidents do happen.

[bucky501 923]

There are legitimate reasons why an SP might be a no-show. I've never done it but accidents do happen.

 

Just like all of us...Life happens...and we move on

 

I have had to cancel on clients from time to time and (can`t believe I did this) have forgotten appointments and been a `no-show`

 

None of us are perfect

 

so--whoever it is that certain persons might be complaining about--leave it be.

 

This discussion should be over since I think it sublimaly started attacking an SP for no good reason

[E.D. man 691]

i had one SP , reduce my session to a half hour when I arrived. I called from the rideau cebtre which was less than 10 mins away to confirm I still had anhour session. With my problem it takes me awhile to get hard so I do not book halfhour sessions.

She had something come up and knew it when I called from the rideau center.

I would have preferred that she cancelled the session, because I have a very hadr time rushing. I heard he on the phone with who it wasand what she should of done was cancel my appt.

She is a welled reviewed lady on the board and respect. But I am someone who will never see her again. The situation she was in I would understood the cancellation. I even felt bad during the situation, because her child wanted her badly.

So putting your kids 1st and cancelling is ok with me, but reducing my session and not putting your kids 1st is a turn off to me.

 

Additional Comments:

Well your private message showed up at my email, but does not show up here.

She knew she was going to have to reduce the session when I was on my cell at the ridueau center, but she chose not to tell me till I arrived.

I do not book less than hour sessions because of my problem.

Rushed services is very unexciting and unfun and boring for me. I need that extra time to get hard enough to enter.

[alexgrenyait 2186]

okay here goes i dont write well so bear with me...i am rarely given reasons why a client has to cancel on me nor do i expect one...im sure there is a reason,,eg maybe he isnt up to it that day maybe he has a cold maybe he has a rash i once had a boyfriend have a pimple in his private area so of course its fine to just say i cant make it no reason required now as a companion i have explained this to people i have cancelled quite a few times if i didnt care i would just take your $$$ and not say a thing if i am not 100% i will cancel or ask if he would like to reschedule and i often dont give a reason just that i cant...this is a very upclose and personal profession a slight cold or many other personal things can come up..i find its great to have regulars as they become friends but more and more of late i feel pressured as if i dont see them every week they will be angry or upset i dont like to feel like that..when i start to feel pressured i will stop seeing that person its just how i operate i absolutely hate stress this is supposed to be fun and harmless and not stressful at all kisses and hugs alexg